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Title: SubMit 86' Super Meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: thetallone on April 14, 2014, 09:42:48 AM
So we are getting the jump on it this year so people have more time to book off the day. And to do that we want your ideas.

Different layout, vendors you want to see, think there should be tunes? Let us know and we will try and have another awesome meet this summer.

One of the guys from the evo club put out an idea on the Wsc Facebook page about having a combined Subaru/Mitsubishi meet.


Hoping to have another huge turnout this year and raise some more money for charity.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 14, 2014, 09:44:21 AM
Can you make the weather nicer? That's my suggestion.

But on a serious note, the only complaint I have from last year was that people literally seemed incapable of parking in a straight line, so maybe some rope to guide people would work out a little better. Past that, last year was pretty fantastic.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Asstuna on April 14, 2014, 09:50:35 AM
Can you make the weather nicer? That's my suggestion.

But on a serious note, the only complaint I have from last year was that people literally seemed incapable of parking in a straight line, so maybe some rope to guide people would work out a little better. Past that, last year was pretty fantastic.

We had yellow lines to guide us and we still uckfayed it up. Maybe a parking Nazi?
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Alex on April 14, 2014, 09:58:12 AM
I'm all for mixed meet, the more cars, the better.

I'd rather have people park normally in the yellow lines than angle parking if it means we don't have a giant curved line that looks like bum. Or have a person direct the parking and force people to park properly.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 14, 2014, 10:05:12 AM
I think splitting the difference in distance was a good idea, and that mall lot had tons of room.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 14, 2014, 10:12:52 AM
We had yellow lines to guide us and we still uckfayed it up. Maybe a parking Nazi?

I liked the angled parking, but really, you just needed your back bumper to hit that yellow line and stop. At the beginning of the line, it was fine, but by the end, they were in the aisle.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Dev on April 14, 2014, 11:21:39 AM
I gotta remember to bring lawn chairs this time haha, but last years meet was awesome. The angle parking looks good but i agree with everyone that we need some assistance in getting the cars lined up lol
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Rick on April 14, 2014, 11:37:33 AM
Mixed meet would be really sweet.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Blurple on April 14, 2014, 03:19:37 PM
MUSIC. AHMAHGAHD.

The mall was good. Great because I forgot lawn chairs and had to go buy some from Wal-Mart, lol..
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Unoriginalusername on April 14, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
The mall was a good place, more volunteers would really help with stuff like parking. If we can have designated people to help with that that would be great.

Maybe Shirts for them, so that its obvious who you can ask questions, or who you can go to for assistance. Catagorys for the cars for prizes, with judges from some of the people who donate prizes. So if VEX donated (just as an example) Have someone from vex to judge, ect.

Music would be great, I have no idea if we could get a local radio station to come out, and set up something and then they can advertise for the event so we could possibly get more foot traffic, of course we do not want to be too loud as their are houses in the area.

Maybe making a map for parking, so that people will know before they come the sections they will need to be in, maybe different catergories. I feel like the GD era of cars had a much longer line (maybe it was GR i dont remmember) and it made for walking around and looking at the cars kinda annoying. I think offering vendors tables and areas in the middle of the event opposed to being off to the side would be a good idea as well. Especially if they have. Keeping things tighter so that cars are not far apart I think is an important.

Who knows who we could get this year for vendors with more time, but we should be able to handle something. Maybe a better system for getting burgers and pops and stuff like that. Something that stream lines things.

I like the idea of having more then just subarus there. I enjoy a good car show, no matter whats being displayed, but it allows for some variety. 

Of course these are all ideas, if we could get a group of people that want to work together this year, that would be great. We could disgnate different people for different things. One person in charge of food, one person in charge of admission, one person in charge of parking, couple people in charge of finding vendos to either attend, or to donate towards the charity. Then the people in charge could find people to assist them, so the person in charge of food would locate the BBQ, food required, and then also get people to volunteer to help cook the food, and serve the food.

Person with admission could plan for the table at entrance, and possibly come up with a way to stream line admission so that the entrance does not get bogged down with cars entering.

Of course, these are just ideas. The first year was a success, but there are some areas of improvement.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: k_LX on April 14, 2014, 06:33:18 PM
^Maybe if you made it out for wings we could discuss things!  Stop being so busy!  :P
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 14, 2014, 07:33:23 PM
Hey guys so I'm going to make the contacts and everything tomorrow and stuff.

I'm also meeting with the mitsu/brz guys next week to hammer it out keep posting comments and I'll look into logistics
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 14, 2014, 08:30:48 PM
Should have multiple judges for sure.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: tperkins on April 14, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
I liked the angled parking, but really, you just needed your back bumper to hit that yellow line and stop. At the beginning of the line, it was fine, but by the end, they were in the aisle.

k_lx was on the very end, if I remember correctly.  :P
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 14, 2014, 08:48:25 PM
Should have multiple judges for sure.
Agreed. And from a wide pool, so there will be little conflict of interest.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 14, 2014, 08:50:10 PM
Agreed. And from a wide pool, so there will be little conflict of interest.

Max one per sponsor/vendor, and at least one normal member.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Zaider on April 14, 2014, 09:44:30 PM
there will be a german section, ja?
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jukka on April 15, 2014, 09:19:54 AM
I can see what I can do about pulling some strings on my end to maybe get some sponsorship/prizes donated from work.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 15, 2014, 05:48:09 PM
Zaider and Jutes will get VIP parking for zee german whips.

Multi judges will not be a problem as of now there will be one from each club plus vendors.

parking cones may be doable if time permits BUT i really don't want to go there for 6 in the morning but we might be able to figure something out.

Jukka Let me know I'm pretty sure that Y.E.S.S can provide receipts if needed.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Asstuna on April 15, 2014, 05:54:27 PM
Zaider and Jutes will get VIP parking for zee german whips.

Multi judges will not be a problem as of now there will be one from each club plus vendors.

parking cones may be doable if time permits BUT i really don't want to go there for 6 in the morning but we might be able to figure something out.

Jukka Let me know I'm pretty sure that Y.E.S.S can provide receipts if needed.
I'm happy to come earlier if it means I get a better parking spot
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Cagare on April 15, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
I also do not mind coming a bit earlier to help organize or anything else that is needed.  The bonus would be a nice parking spot

Was there any dates in mind for this year yet?
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 15, 2014, 06:12:13 PM
I'm happy to come earlier if it means I get a better parking spot
I might do this too.. Be less bugs on the highway earlier in the morn.. Plus the parking
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: funk32 on April 15, 2014, 06:16:52 PM
I'll Judge hehe. My car probably wont be back together by the time this happens and I do want to come to the meet.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: KennyB on April 15, 2014, 06:46:44 PM
Maybe if everybody took up 2 spots on an angle centred on the yellow line it would space the cars evenly and keep everybody in straight lines. Even so we should have a few people designated help arrange the cars at they come in, most likely I'll be there so I'll volunteer myself for that or something else that needs to be done. Also may be able to get a sponsor or two who can donate some GC's or prizes, I'll ask a few of my friends who own businesses and see if they are interested.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: lakelouise02bugeye on April 15, 2014, 07:01:32 PM
ill see if i can get some hotel stay packages for prizes
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 15, 2014, 10:39:24 PM
I'm happy to come earlier if it means I get a better parking spot
You're more then welcome to come early and draw chalk outlines for GD people who cant park lol


Thanks to everyone jumping in on this and offering support and prizes it sure makes it easier to raise money when there is awesome prizes to one as well.

I should find out this week what days are available for the summer. To people with families and such would you be more enticed to bring them if there was bouncy castles and such or does it not really make a difference to you? 

Also who has the WSC banner we missed out on using it and I think it would help out a bit to show people there is something going on there. I think Auto-X will have to wait for another year until we get all the logistics of this big of a meet ready.

keep the ideas coming folks! 
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: lakelouise02bugeye on April 15, 2014, 11:02:15 PM
Ive got the banner
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: NinjaFracman on April 16, 2014, 10:44:29 PM
july 12????
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 17, 2014, 05:40:58 AM
Ill see what I can do for dates but we are completely up to the mercy of "outside" agency's depending on how booked up they are but it looks like the general thought is last week or second last week of July.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 17, 2014, 06:28:58 AM
As long as it's after the 18th, I'm good.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 17, 2014, 08:38:16 AM
Sooo.... Some things I'm shooting for entertainment wise.


Local radio station on site playing music and promoting the event.

RC Car races : its not an autocross no but it is competitive and everyone loves to win! If any RC people wanna help set this up and give me some ideas shoot me a PM.

Raffle prizes : Much like last year with some more awesome prizes ! again all the money spent on raffle tickets goes straight to charity and it sounds like there may be some awwwesome prizes this year!

Maybe a food truck on site for some super yummy eats! again this depends on location date time blah blah.

Car show judged by a forum member (4 different forums/Groups) plus a judge from on site vendors if they choose to do so.

Again we are planning to have Shirts as soon as we can hammer out some details as well as other sweet swag.

Any other fun and EASILY feasible events you people would like to see? I have a call into environment Canada to turn up the sun that day so hopefully they pull through




Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: StickyTires on April 17, 2014, 10:30:14 AM
Jesse, I can take care of trophies again this year if you'd like to help me with categories and what have you. I can also get in touch with scott subaru again as well if we want to go that route. Get the new STI and FXT on site if possible. Don't think they'll allow test drives this year but its a good opportunity to see the new subie line up anyway. Last year they were handing out 10% of coupons for their parts department to anyone who wanted it so its a bit of a perk if anyone needs something (ie. coolant, wipers, block heaters, battery warmers, etc.).

I also have a contact at the LA Radio Group so I may be able to work something out there when we get some dates down.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 17, 2014, 10:43:23 AM
Yea ill most likley let you cover trophies again this year as mine were pretty ittshay last year lol.

You've got a text coming your way shortly
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Cagare on April 17, 2014, 10:45:29 AM
We have a lot of good photographers in this community.  Depending on interest from these talented individuals "photo shoots" could be sold, with some of the proceeds going to charity. I know the Toronto-Subaru-Club did rig shots at their hypermeet last year.    This of course is based on the interest of a photographer willing to do it.

Another thing that is possible, depending on vendor interest, is having a mobile detailer there to do something simple, like headlight restorations.  Or a dent removal company to do dents at the meet.  These are two things I have seen at other meets in the past. 

Just throwing these ideas out there.  I don't know how easy they will be.  Any of these ideas could have some pre-sold before the day of the meet, and then the vendor could also sell more people while on site.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 17, 2014, 11:11:42 AM
We have a lot of good photographers in this community.  Depending on interest from these talented individuals "photo shoots" could be sold, with some of the proceeds going to charity...
Another thing that is possible, depending on vendor interest, is having a mobile detailer there to do something simple, like headlight restorations.  Or a dent removal company to do dents at the meet.  These are two things I have seen at other meets in the past. 

I like this idea maybe and on site quick buff or something with before and after photoshoot lol.

Its something I would definitely consider thanks for the idea! 

Any photogs willing to set something up? throw me a PM!
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Cagare on April 17, 2014, 11:12:53 AM
If someone could convince Amby to subject himself to a dunk tank on-site that day and charge $5 dollars a throw I think that it would likely be the biggest way to raise money.  Heck, I think we may be able to charge even higher than that.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 17, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
If someone could convince Amby to subject himself to a dunk tank on-site that day and charge $5 dollars a throw I think that it would likely be the biggest way to raise money.  Heck, I think we may be able to charge even higher than that.


Only if he wears a white tank top
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Blurple on April 17, 2014, 11:20:06 AM
Maybe umbrellas/tables/chairs where ever the food is going to be?
I think RC races would be neat!

I'd be down to come down early and help set up. I'm sure Scott (munsternoms) would be willing voluntold to as well.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: StickyTires on April 17, 2014, 11:43:35 AM
Yeah, we absolutely encourage that everyone brings a their camera and shoots some sweet photos. The more photos the better. If anyone is into video, I think it would be sweet for people to set up their gopros at random locations on their cars for the cruise to and from then mash it all together with some editing. But that starts getting complicated haha so if someone is interested in doing that, take the reins!!!

If one of or a conglomerate of our photographers want to get together and put together an "Official" photo album of the meet and sell it with proceeds going to charity, I think that would be really cool too! Just an idea!

Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 17, 2014, 12:22:55 PM
Editited with touched up version

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3809/13890951871_12b0cbde4e_b.jpg)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: My Dad on April 17, 2014, 12:34:43 PM
Love it Jesse! That FRZ86 will be white too I'm assuming?

The thing with the photos is that to do a proper shoot it would be tough. I for one like to scout out my spots and know where I'm going.
I'd definitely be open to 'quick rips' up and down the aligned 2 lane road for a few rolling shots  and maybe close up detailed shots and stills at the end of the parking lot. 10 bones a piece with 50% going to the cause.

Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Claw on April 17, 2014, 05:59:31 PM
Missing an S2000 picture.  :(
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: GC8REX on April 17, 2014, 06:19:39 PM
Wheres the gc Jesse??
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Asstuna on April 17, 2014, 07:04:07 PM
Love it Jesse! That FRZ86 will be white too I'm assuming?
I'd rather see a BRZ, but an FR-S will do if they attend.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 17, 2014, 07:17:10 PM
I'd rather see a BRZ, but an FR-S will do if they attend.

I think he was including all variations of the same car (BRZ/FR-S/GT-86)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Asstuna on April 17, 2014, 07:30:17 PM
I think he was including all variations of the same car (BRZ/FR-S/GT-86)
That image is a Scion, but I get what you're saying.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 17, 2014, 08:32:57 PM
If someone could convince Amby to subject himself to a dunk tank on-site that day and charge $5 dollars a throw I think that it would likely be the biggest way to raise money.  Heck, I think we may be able to charge even higher than that.

Only if snackers and jutes are on board too. Maybe we should have a JDM car there for people to throw stuff at.

On a serious note, I think the judges should only be people independent from sponsors or vendors. I say this to avoid any allegations of favoritism. It's easier to deal with that on the front end. Vendors should be encouraged to show their wares and promote their services, but that should be completely separate from any car show or event. Remember, this is WSC's super meet, not [insert vendor's name]'s super meet. This will also make it easier to control how many judges you have. If 10 vendors show interest, do you really want to have 10 judges, plus a bunch of regular Joe judges to balance them out?

A combined meet could be good, but steps should be taken to promote mixing. At past Subaru meets, groups tended to stick to themselves. It'll be even worse at a combined Mitsubishi and Subaru show. You don't want all the Mitsubishis to park at one side and all the Subarus at another ,and the owners to act like kids at their first boy girl dance.

If it's a meet, there shouldn't be any price for admission. If the goal is to raise money for a charity, charge for food or drinks, have an auction for prizes, sell tickets for a raffle, whatever, but keep admission free.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 17, 2014, 08:38:56 PM
I agree with amby.

The picture was a quick mock up already working on a new logo . If you guys want to do up some ideas you are more than welcome ! We might even do up a contest for design
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 17, 2014, 08:55:34 PM
On a serious note, I think the judges should only be people independent from sponsors or vendors. I say this to avoid any allegations of favoritism.

+10
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: KennyB on April 17, 2014, 08:58:00 PM
Its more or less impossible to get a group of judges at a car meet/show that know the cars well enough to do a good job judging them and aren't bias in some way. Maybe we can try something different, vote ourselves rather than have it judged. Who knows our cars better than us? 
Every car that comes in gets a voting card with categories, and a sticker to write your user name on and stick on your license plate. An hour before voting we collect the cards, have a few people tally up the results and we have our winners. I think everybody is responsible enough to do this fairly and vote for the most deserving person, and will be a broad enough group of people to keep it pretty fair.
I just came up with that idea then so it could probably do with some tweaking.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: GC8REX on April 17, 2014, 09:03:10 PM
It might be a good idea to not separate out the generations of subarus, might promote more communication between groups of friends.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 17, 2014, 09:03:46 PM
That's a good idea. That's what they did at that Rev for Le cure show last year.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 17, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
I think that can be a good thing, though. If the goal is to give prizes or trophies to the best looking cars, knowing about the build doesn't matter. Voting might work, but the big risk is that it'll just be a popularity contest. Ideally you want the people judging to have no idea who owns the car.

A good way to pick judges would be for the respective clubs taking part to pick their representatives themselves, however they want to do it.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 17, 2014, 10:00:04 PM
Could have a few people's choice categories where the crowd could vote, then other categories where there is some actual judges, be it vendors or show supporters. Wasn't the Subaru dealer guy one of the judges last year?
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 17, 2014, 10:20:08 PM
The rep from Subaru, Anthony from stage2 , the rep from y.e.s.s and stickytires were all part of the judging. I'm with you on  the parking situation and I've got a plan for that.

On the note for admission I'm not sure if you were there or not last year Amby but we did it so you when enter you pay for parking but get raffle tickets at the same time. This was our biggest source of donations last year and it also kept people around for the draw at the end. Is that system alright ?

I was thinking of a online pre registration as well and with that a signed spots a username / brief description on a plaque a map for parking and will make everything much much faster. As much as I loved running up to everyones windows with cash and tickets it wasn't efficient.

Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Asstuna on April 17, 2014, 10:26:34 PM
+1 Amby dunk tank.
uckyfay, I'll give it a go if people want to get some revenge (you know who you are).
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 17, 2014, 10:58:48 PM
I liked the meets where you just showed up. If you wanted to spend money, you could, but you didn't have to.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: GC8REX on April 18, 2014, 12:36:47 AM
I liked the meets where you just showed up. If you wanted to spend money, you could, but you didn't have to.

Those meets happen every week (at least in Edmonton). I don't think its too much to ask for members to throw some money toward a good cause for the largest meet of the year.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Awolmonster on April 18, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
This sounds like an awesome idea. I just recently picked up a subaru, so I dont even know where you hold this meet. but I am down either way.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: funk32 on April 18, 2014, 09:54:02 AM
I liked the meets where you just showed up. If you wanted to spend money, you could, but you didn't have to.

A small entry fee for a good cause shouldn't hurt anyone's wallet that owns a Subaru
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 18, 2014, 10:45:32 AM
Its more or less impossible to get a group of judges at a car meet/show that know the cars well enough to do a good job judging them and aren't bias in some way. Maybe we can try something different, vote ourselves rather than have it judged. Who knows our cars better than us? 
Every car that comes in gets a voting card with categories, and a sticker to write your user name on and stick on your license plate. An hour before voting we collect the cards, have a few people tally up the results and we have our winners. I think everybody is responsible enough to do this fairly and vote for the most deserving person, and will be a broad enough group of people to keep it pretty fair.
I just came up with that idea then so it could probably do with some tweaking.

Just pick some volunteers. Anyone who volunteers needs to have some background in subies, and they need to exclude their own cars. If some of the OG's make it out they'd make some great judges. I'd even volunteer myself.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: KennyB on April 18, 2014, 10:58:24 AM
Just pick some volunteers. Anyone who volunteers needs to have some background in subies, and they need to exclude their own cars. If some of the OG's make it out they'd make some great judges. I'd even volunteer myself.
That would be the best route for Judging I agree but still would have lots of room for people being able to call favouritism which is what I was addressing. Even though it would be cool to have a prize or trophy awarded on members votes, each car registered would get one vote for their favourite car there. "The Members Choice Award" lol
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 18, 2014, 11:05:14 AM
Its also not like we are putting the operating cost on the admission fee that's covered by me so 100% of your "fee" goes to you maybe winning some awesome stuff and to a charity... But yes I do see your point and there is parking that is free if you wanna just meander through the meet and look at the cars you are more then welcome to as well.

It also kind of prevents some one from rocking up in a big coal rolling lifted truck and stunting inside our car show as happens at free meets in Edmonton and did happen in reddeer when hosted by Vex we all remember them guys....

But this is all in its very infant stages of planning and things can be adjusted on the fly if need be. Hell last year we came up with the parking "plan" about 45 mins before people started rolling in. Its very few and far between (maybe once) that I've been to a car show where there was judging and prizes to be won but every car show like that had a entrance fee or registration fee.

Every car at the meet parked in the lot no matter if its Funks wallet on wheels. Assuntas Mrs BRZ, Jessica's forester or some one rocks up in the WSC red wagon every car is judged on different categories and everyone has a chance at winning.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: funk32 on April 18, 2014, 11:21:21 AM
Funks wallet on wheels.

WTF!! Hahah

I said I would volunteer to judge, I won't have my car down there this year and I am pretty good at no hold favs/grudges.. I am in for a great meet and to see some fun Whips lol. 
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 18, 2014, 11:24:37 AM
A small entry fee for a good cause shouldn't hurt anyone's wallet that owns a Subaru

Its also not like we are putting the operating cost on the admission fee that's covered by me so 100% of your "fee" goes to you maybe winning some awesome stuff and to a charity... But yes I do see your point and there is parking that is free if you wanna just meander through the meet and look at the cars you are more then welcome to as well.

It also kind of prevents some one from rocking up in a big coal rolling lifted truck and stunting inside our car show as happens at free meets in Edmonton and did happen in reddeer when hosted by Vex we all remember them guys....

But this is all in its very infant stages of planning and things can be adjusted on the fly if need be. Hell last year we came up with the parking "plan" about 45 mins before people started rolling in. Its very few and far between (maybe once) that I've been to a car show where there was judging and prizes to be won but every car show like that had a entrance fee or registration fee.

Every car at the meet parked in the lot no matter if its Funks wallet on wheels. Assuntas Mrs BRZ, Jessica's forester or some one rocks up in the WSC red wagon every car is judged on different categories and everyone has a chance at winning.

It isn't about the quantum of the fee for me. I think it should be free to get in to the WSC super meet, just like as if it were any other meet. If there's a raffle, people should be able to decide whether they want to take part. You could even divide it up so only the people who pay can take part in the show. I think if you charge for the raffle, charge for the show, and charge for food, you'll more than make up for it and still be able to advertise entry to the meet itself as free.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 18, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
Entry is free though..... just not for your car lol theres a shady parking lot literally 5 feet from the gate that you can park and walk in its like separating the car show only between two lots.

All the vendors and stuff will be in the "show" lot but you are free to walk in walk out come and go as you please.

But like I said I would consider doing a different format
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 18, 2014, 12:10:01 PM
How many club members are going to want to park away from their friends though?

Whatever you guys decide is fine, I'm just suggesting an alternative to consider.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 18, 2014, 12:26:02 PM
Appreciate it!  All input will be considered
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: REX on April 18, 2014, 02:10:47 PM
I agree there should be a small fee for having your car parked in the main lot. Like you said, it keeps the asshats in their lifted trucks away. Entrance for people should be free though like amby said, anyone should be allowed to come take a look at the cars without having to pay for a raffle they might not want to stick around for.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: funk32 on April 18, 2014, 02:15:51 PM
^^^^^ that how it was last year, you didn't have to pay for tickets.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 18, 2014, 02:16:00 PM
Yep thats how we did it last year and it went well a few people chose to park in the other lot no big deal walk in and enjoy the day some people came in paid for parking and then left an hour later again awesome
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Zaider on April 18, 2014, 04:47:23 PM
An alternative is that if you want your car to be judged, then you can pay to "enter" and get a sheet to fill out your name and some details of the ride that you put on your windshield. If you dont want to enter your ride, but still want to feel included, then that's fine, you should still be able to park with everyone and show off your car... At the end of the day, I think of the Super Meet as a meet, not a car show... but that's just me.

Another alternative would be to have cash entry if you want to be judged and, if not, bring a canned good or something that can be donated to a local food bank.

Either way, I'll park in the VIP section with Jutes.

Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 18, 2014, 05:02:41 PM

Another alternative would be to have cash entry if you want to be judged and, if not, bring a canned good or something that can be donated to a local food bank.

Either way, I'll park in the VIP section with Jutes.


That's a good idea Zaider... it being the mid way point of summer a donation of school supplies for kids in need would be awesome too that was kind of what i was thinking as a non currency thing.


VIP parking is 2.5 euros

We probably wont get to thrash the new STi around the parking lot like we did the new BRZ last year so that's a bit of a loss but maybe things could be made to intice people to make donations and stuff *shrug* lots of good feed back on this so far so I'm happy with it that means people are at least taking a intrest in it.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Blurple on April 18, 2014, 09:38:59 PM
and get a sheet to fill out your name and some details of the ride that you put on your windshield.

I'd like to add to this: Name Tags/Usernames for ALL THE WINDOWS. 
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: lakelouise02bugeye on April 18, 2014, 10:22:57 PM
im gonna laminate my dyno sheet this year, maybe more people will look at my car then
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 18, 2014, 10:29:59 PM
im gonna laminate my dyno sheet this year, maybe more people will look at my car then

(http://i.imgur.com/0liNsr6.jpg)

No, seriously, that was awesome.

(http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/279078iF57B2F84025C0789/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: snackers on April 18, 2014, 10:33:17 PM
Last year I decided last minute to go to the meet. I did not read the 18 page thread about it, which may have contained the detail that shocked me when I showed up.
"That'll be 10 bucks" after a 1.5hr drive without knowing about that didn't impress me.
The amount isn't the problem, especially because apparently if I drive a subaru I can afford it.
I didn't bring any cash... nor do I ever carry cash because it's the 21st century.
I didn't, and still don't, give any craps about a car show, winning prizes, or having my name carved into a plaque for donations to Wing 7 of the art gallery.

If this is a car show with mandatory entry charges and judgement, put that in the very first post along with "if you decide not to pay, you can park in the corner out of sight". Make sure to also include the warning about car babes leaning up against your fender for cool instragram shots.
If this is a car meet which invites ANYone and everyone to show up to meet others from the community, show off what's in their build threads, not be expected to pay if they don't want to, and still feel included as part of the community, then make sure that is apparent as well.

The statement of "if you don't want to pay, go to a wings meet" doesn't fly with me since a separate thread was started with the words "WSC Super Meet" in the title.
Change the name to "Driven - the WSC version" if it isn't going to be a car enthusiast meet.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 18, 2014, 10:37:48 PM
Last year I decided last minute to go to the meet. I did not read the 18 page thread about it, which may have contained the detail that shocked me when I showed up.
"That'll be 10 bucks" after a 1.5hr drive without knowing about that didn't impress me.
The amount isn't the problem, especially because apparently if I drive a subaru I can afford it.
I didn't bring any cash... nor do I ever carry cash because it's the 21st century.
I didn't, and still don't, give any craps about a car show, winning prizes, or having my name carved into a plaque for donations to Wing 7 of the art gallery.

If this is a car show with mandatory entry charges and judgement, put that in the very first post along with "if you decide not to pay, you can park in the corner out of sight". Make sure to also include the warning about car babes leaning up against your fender for cool instragram shots.
If this is a car meet which invites ANYone and everyone to show up to meet others from the community, show off what's in their build threads, not be expected to pay if they don't want to, and still feel included as part of the community, then make sure that is apparent as well.

The statement of "if you don't want to pay, go to a wings meet" doesn't fly with me since a separate thread was started with the words "WSC Super Meet" in the title.
Change the name to "Driven - the WSC version" if it isn't going to be a car enthusiast meet.

Well put.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 19, 2014, 06:43:42 AM
Good points Snackers..

I didn't realize that the financial aspect of last years meet left a bad taste in so many mouths. It's easy to get swept up into something and not look at it from different aspects e.g. a charity that I may feel passionate about other people may not care and it shouldn't be forced upon them to care.

a lot of things were learned about planning that meet better communication / promotion being one of the items at the top that I am striving to work on.

Also perhaps you are right about the name change as this isn't a meet with "JUST" WSC involved but more a meet that WSC is hosting seeing as there are 3 other clubs/forums involved as well.

It's a good thing these items / opinions / criticisms are coming to light so early in the planning phase as it makes it easier to adjust / add / remove things before there is a commitment made so thank you everyone and keep them coming.

People may argue that Driven is a event for a car enthusiast but yea I catch your drift.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 19, 2014, 10:55:15 AM
I'd like to add to this: Name Tags/Usernames for ALL THE WINDOWS. 

I've contemplated getting betacuts to print off my username so I can stick it on the rear door window, becausenotrallycar
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 19, 2014, 11:16:59 AM
I was kinda thinking if we do a pre registration of making placards with username and stats that slides into the windshield.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 19, 2014, 11:18:07 AM
I don't think anyone is against giving to a charity, but some seem to think charging admission to what is the WSC Super Meet goes against the idea of the WSC Super Meet; a chance for all members to socialize and talk about their cars. If you had other ways to donate money, I'm sure most people would do it. I don't know what charity you used last year, but I think it's a good idea to keep it as broad as possible, like the Red Cross or SPCA. Hell, you could talk to the charity in advance and bring them in on it so people could donate at home but under the WSC banner and still receive a tax receipt.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: lakelouise02bugeye on April 19, 2014, 11:21:31 AM
I was kinda thinking if we do a pre registration of making placards with username and stats that slides into the windshield.

last year at quarry park and polish they had blanck placecards with the event themed border and 3 sections on it
name:
make:
year:
and when you got there you filled it out yourself.

it might be easier than trying to get all the pre reg`s done and end up forgetting one
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Zaider on April 19, 2014, 11:58:53 AM
last year at quarry park and polish they had blanck placecards with the event themed border and 3 sections on it
name:
make:
year:
and when you got there you filled it out yourself.

it might be easier than trying to get all the pre reg`s done and end up forgetting one

This. Much easier on the organizers. Same thing that Driven does.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 19, 2014, 01:21:58 PM
Yea that does sound a hell of a lot easier then mailing out stuff haha.

As for the parking though maybe ill start a list and make up stalls the night before morning of so that people go to the right stall maybe? I know that was a issue at one point.

We also want to mix all the cars so maybe subaru then scion/brz then mitsu that way everyone gets to chill together.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 19, 2014, 01:27:28 PM
I think it's easier to just leave parking open, but encourage people to mix through other means. I just think assigned parking is kind of strange at a meet where people will be coming and going at random times.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: lakelouise02bugeye on April 19, 2014, 01:29:10 PM
Yea that does sound a hell of a lot easier then mailing out stuff haha.

As for the parking though maybe ill start a list and make up stalls the night before morning of so that people go to the right stall maybe? I know that was a issue at one point.

We also want to mix all the cars so maybe subaru then scion/brz then mitsu that way everyone gets to chill together.
assigned parking spots relies on all people showing up at once, it would be too confusing for people who did not register online.
it also avoids the "hey asshat youre in my spot" kinda deal
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 19, 2014, 01:35:24 PM
Alright well... a few parking attendents to help everyone and cones and that should settle the heated parking debate.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: GrandThing101 on April 19, 2014, 02:47:13 PM
Sorry for sounding kind of dumb, but I'm new and we have to register online? If so, where?
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 19, 2014, 02:50:15 PM
Read the thread, there's no registration yet. This is purely an ideas thread.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 19, 2014, 03:01:27 PM
I liked how it was broken down into models last year. Made for some cool long length front end shots.

Either way.. If we all gaggle or if there is assigned areas, my feelings won't be hurt.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Alex on April 21, 2014, 08:38:11 AM
I didn't pay $10 last year. Did I beat the system?

P.s. I prefer to have no entry fee as it will affect the overall attendance.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Blurple on April 21, 2014, 07:26:34 PM
A while back there was talk about "RC Races", which I still think is a super cool idea. Why not charge like $2.00 (example) for that and whatever other little "events" everyone comes up with and then put those proceeds towards charity rather than charging an entry fee. If a burger is like 5$, put $1 from every burger (example) to charity. Sell raffle tickets.

Also, perhaps take a poll of the popular charities so that everyone has an opportunity to feel included in the selection of where the money goes. Unless, of course, the charity has been selected and is set in stone.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 21, 2014, 08:16:42 PM
A while back there was talk about "RC Races", which I still think is a super cool idea. Why not charge like $2.00 (example) for that and whatever other little "events" everyone comes up with and then put those proceeds towards charity rather than charging an entry fee. If a burger is like 5$, put $1 from every burger (example) to charity. Sell raffle tickets.

Also, perhaps take a poll of the popular charities so that everyone has an opportunity to feel included in the selection of where the money goes. Unless, of course, the charity has been selected and is set in stone.


I think that will be the format we will be going with this year after some talks...


The charity has been selected as they are willing to send volunteers/ I have worked with them before / they seem to be pretty supportive of our group and will help with the media side of things.

After going through the hassle of trying to select one last year for months at a time I think its better to go with one that we have used before.


Alex you can pay twice this year to make up for it...lol

near the end of the meet last like 30 mins or so i think there was people that didn't pay because it was pretty much over.... Also i thought it was 5 but perhaps snackers is right I cant really remember at this point in time.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: StickyTires on April 23, 2014, 09:35:37 AM
As far as parking goes I think we change the theme from year to year. We get a couple of parking volunteers to get everyone to follow what ever the theme is. Last year it was Subie generations. This year maybe we do colors? Maybe we just do a straight up mix (not allowed to park by the same body style car?). Seems like a decent Idea to me cause then every year you can get some sweet group pics of the car but they also aren't the same every year.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: A.J. on April 23, 2014, 02:02:48 PM
Has there been a date set yet? I'd love to make it to this year's meet, but that will depend on when it is.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: canehdianJ on April 23, 2014, 02:15:53 PM
As far as parking goes I think we change the theme from year to year. We get a couple of parking volunteers to get everyone to follow what ever the theme is. Last year it was Subie generations. This year maybe we do colors? Maybe we just do a straight up mix (not allowed to park by the same body style car?). Seems like a decent Idea to me cause then every year you can get some sweet group pics of the car but they also aren't the same every year.

i like this.


ok jdm guys....  your parking.... is over...there.  no.  way over there.  where you cant be seen  ^-^
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 23, 2014, 02:26:02 PM
Still working on a date I hopefully will have something nailed out shortly.

Parking parking parking parking I need a drink.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: snackers on April 23, 2014, 03:40:44 PM
Parking parking parking parking I need a drink.

Only drink while parked.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 23, 2014, 04:03:56 PM
I vote jutes to be in charge of parking.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: GC8REX on April 23, 2014, 05:54:56 PM
i like this.


ok jdm guys....  your parking.... is over...there.  no.  way over there.  where you cant be seen  ^-^

I believe the JDM line was the straightest last year  :D
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Bryan@TunerWorks on April 24, 2014, 01:09:34 PM
Well, I talked to management and Tunerworks will be able to provide some prizes and merch for the show, if you'll have us. I'll be coming regardless.

As for prizes and swag, I'm going to see what I can get out of my suppliers for donations. The bigger the show, the bigger the prizes I should be able to get.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 24, 2014, 01:17:34 PM
Good news folks ! The WSC Super Meat now has a solid day and location. Saturday July 26 2014 Parkland mall Red Deer AB. This event will bring together members of the Regional Subaru Owners Club, YEG 86 club, Alberta Evolution, and the Western Subaru Club. There will be prizes , raffles, food! , and other events on going.
But I need your help in desiging a logo ! Try to include each make and/or club in the design. You have until May 7th to submit your designs you can post them either as a comment here or send a link to where it is hosted or email it to
wscsupermeet@gmail.com
Thank you all and stay tuned.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 24, 2014, 01:27:05 PM
(http://m.memegen.com/rrytzx.jpg)

This should just be a car meet at this point, and I don't think the WSC name should be involved at all.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: RedndWhite on April 24, 2014, 01:30:17 PM
(http://m.memegen.com/rrytzx.jpg)

This should just be a car meet at this point, and I don't think the WSC name should be involved at all.

Here here.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Asstuna on April 24, 2014, 01:32:04 PM
Then call it an automotive enthusiast charity event.
Easy
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Scrambles on April 24, 2014, 01:35:28 PM
(http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/48961724.jpg)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Asstuna on April 24, 2014, 01:40:21 PM
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5061/13995519651_9344bd5411_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/njJGoX)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: snackers on April 24, 2014, 01:41:18 PM
Then call it an automotive enthusiast charity event.

As mentioned before, I believe an event of this type is called "Driven".
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 24, 2014, 01:59:27 PM
Yeah I don't get how it's the WSC super meat when there are several other car clubs involved.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: A.J. on April 24, 2014, 02:05:59 PM
You picked the wrong day...

The other totally awesome car related thing going on that day (http://www.la1k.ca/)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 24, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
This should just be a car meet at this point, and I don't think the WSC name should be involved at all.


The reason that it was still called the WSC supermeet is because it

A) was started by WSC members
B) WSC allows all cars of all makes into its club with open arms
C) It reflects better upon the club having successful meets that members conduct their selves in a appropriate matter meaning WSC looks better as a whole.


But if most members on here do want it change just to Supermeet than we can put it to a vote.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 24, 2014, 02:10:53 PM
I think it should be changed. It can still use the WSC but it isn't a WSC meet. It's a multi-club meet put on by some WSC members.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 24, 2014, 02:12:37 PM
I think it should be changed. It can still use the WSC but it isn't a WSC meet. It's a multi-club meet put on by some WSC members.

Agreed.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 24, 2014, 02:13:13 PM
Fair enough
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: pistachoo on April 24, 2014, 02:27:53 PM
The reason that it was still called the WSC supermeet is because it

A) was started by WSC members
B) WSC allows all cars of all makes into its club with open arms
C) It reflects better upon the club having successful meets that members conduct their selves in a appropriate matter meaning WSC looks better as a whole.

But if most members on here do want it change just to Supermeet than we can put it to a vote.

While the above is true, I'd like to speak to C) in that it can easily end up the reverse: misbehaving, hooning, side-ways-hat-wearing miscreants who are not a part of WSC and couldn't care less about WSC's reputation could in very short order drag our name through the mud by all manner of poor choices.

Something like this happened last month at a meet at Spanish Banks (the week before the Rev Scene Annual Spring Meet) which ended with 3-4 cars in the ditch and a fair bit of local media attention. A lot of people belonging to Rev Scene were worried that their reputation for hosting successful meets would be tarnished, and it wasn't even the same weekend.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 24, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
As the email is already created ill still keep that title but maybe we will make a new name
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 24, 2014, 02:57:42 PM
Maybe toss a disclaimer that anything said or done is not to be taken as representative of WSC.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 24, 2014, 03:08:10 PM
While the above is true, I'd like to speak to C) in that it can easily end up the reverse: misbehaving, hooning, side-ways-hat-wearing miscreants who are not a part of WSC and couldn't care less about WSC's reputation could in very short order drag our name through the mud by all manner of poor choices.

Something like this happened last month at a meet at Spanish Banks (the week before the Rev Scene Annual Spring Meet) which ended with 3-4 cars in the ditch and a fair bit of local media attention. A lot of people belonging to Rev Scene were worried that their reputation for hosting successful meets would be tarnished, and it wasn't even the same weekend.

Fair point. I suppose it is a two way street. We will make a new name / thread for it as it is a new event. All the contacts to this point have been made as me being a WSC member so our name is out there to the mall and they were very pleased with how we handled the event last year and I think this made them more open to hosting a event of this predicted size.

Again though fair points and the WSC will be removed from the supermeet title but will still be on the materials that we use unless the club would like the  logo and banner removed from that as well ? Again it is early enough in the stages that things can be changed.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 24, 2014, 03:20:11 PM
If it's early enough to change, might as well.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: KennyB on April 24, 2014, 03:24:07 PM
I'll be in Newfieland for my cousins wedding that weekend :(.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 24, 2014, 03:26:15 PM
Will do

Everyone if you would like still drop ideas into this thread and ill still keep an eye out for it or send me a PM which ever.

A new thread will be created with a new name and a better flow. All up dates will be posted in to that thread and the first two posts will be reserved for quick accessable information so people know what to expect when showing up with all the rules laid out. All this talk of a meet and no one has made a I'm not going to the meet meet thread yet I'm a little shocked...

Anyways all thanks for the suggestions.

Stay tuned...
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: thetallone on April 24, 2014, 10:08:57 PM
Not directed at anyone but if you don't like the new meet concept that includes other groups you don't need to come, there will be plenty of cars and awesome people without you. Just don't itchbay (Creative criticism is fine) and itshay on the related threads.
 :haplo90:




Just like last year I am looking for ideas for a cruise route.

Last years cruise never happened due to weather so we weren't even able to trial run my route through sylvan lake. However that might not work anymore with the expected size of the group this year and sylvan has some sizable speed bumps.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 24, 2014, 10:41:13 PM
Not directed at anyone but if you don't like the new meet concept that includes other groups you don't need to come, there will be plenty of cars and awesome people without you. Just don't itchbay (Creative criticism is fine) and itshay on the related threads.
 :haplo90:




Just like last year I am looking for ideas for a cruise route.

Last years cruise never happened due to weather so we weren't even able to trial run my route through sylvan lake. However that might not work anymore with the expected size of the group this year and sylvan has some sizable speed bumps.

Not directed at anyone, except for all the people that have offered input on calling a multi-club meet a WSC meet. Telling people not to come to the WSC super meet, sorry, the WSC meet that actually involves several other clubs, how conducive of site-wide unity. This is why we can't have nice things, like a super meat. 
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: KennyB on April 24, 2014, 10:59:13 PM
I think that having other clubs involved could potentially turn this into a disaster. WSC has a much different group of people for the most part than general car clubs do as well as Subaru enthusiasts in general and conduct themselves much better than any other car club I've seen and that's why we can pull off meets like we do without ever having any issues like other meets do frequently.
The whole point of this was to have a WSC supermeet, I don't see the need to for it to grow beyond that really and not have a super meet at all because it grew into a general car show within 1 year.
I know it's probably too late in the game now to pull the plug on the other groups and didn't really think of it this way when I was talking to you two lastnight (Jesse and Nathan) but after reading through this and thinking about it I think it's going to turn into a shitshow since its guaranteed allot more fast and furious bros will be attending now.
As for the entry fee, If you can't fork out $5 for a good cause to attend a car meet you either didn't wan't to go very bad to begin with, are cheap as uckfay, or just like to complain if you can find something to complain about.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Dev on April 24, 2014, 11:44:13 PM
With the meet being so big this year is there a way to set some ground rules for this meet? Probably be impossible to enforce but I think if there are some rules set up for the meet that could potentially prevent conflict between other clubs.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Cagare on April 25, 2014, 12:00:01 AM
I instantly though of a car club battle royale, similar to anchorman, so:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p5nKlG1uaU8/U1n5PcGfkLI/AAAAAAAABXE/_9WNHH1q3oo/w500-h333-no/48984794.jpg)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 25, 2014, 12:33:50 AM
I can see a cruise turning into an absolute itshay-show. It's hard enough to keep WSC cruises in control and that's without people feeling like they need to whip out their car cocks and show everyone how amazing their particular manufacturer is.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: GrandThing101 on April 25, 2014, 01:50:04 AM
Well this is just an idea so feel free to shoot it down, but for the cruise, why don't we go down by clubs? Like, we could all go together, but every club sticks with their own?
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: funk32 on April 25, 2014, 06:03:30 AM
I can see a cruise turning into an absolute itshay-show. It's hard enough to keep WSC cruises in control and that's without people feeling like they need to whip out their car cocks and show everyone how amazing their particular manufacturer is.

Maybe that's an issue you guys have down your way, we made it to the meet last year with a good size group without 1 single person being a prick.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 25, 2014, 06:34:22 AM
Its seems like this thread is perhaps more about hate/fear then about unity/idea's. I know where all sides are coming from in the fact that some car clubs get itshay on for being ricers and street racers but this meet like all meets I have been to will be held to the same rules that WSC enforces even if WSC wants to distance itself as a flagship organization.

There will be on site security like last year who will be recording plate numbers and ejecting people who break the rules. The Cruise's will happen the exact same way people with in the cruise will monitor behaviour and if some one is getting out of line then they will be reported and not allowed into the meet.

I know that change in one way or another can be a scary thing but there comes a time in every clubs life when they come out of the offices and Tim horntons car parks and move to something bigger and better. If the meet doesn't work out this year and it turns into the negativity fest that only WSC members have predicted then I will gladly disband the group and no longer have any role of any kind in any WSC meet other then attending and lamenting what could have been.

With that said I still hope to see everyone out there this year and that we can put aside our petty differences / squabbles / fear / bitterness and enjoy some nice weather for a change with a bunch of people who like us spend to much money on a box on wheels and get strange looks when they stand in a parking lot in -10 weather talking about a fairing or a certain exhaust.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: LilDrunkenSmurf on April 25, 2014, 07:37:04 AM
Not directed at anyone but if you don't like the new meet concept that includes other groups you don't need to come, there will be plenty of cars and awesome people without you. Just don't itchbay (Creative criticism is fine) and itshay on the related threads.
 :haplo90:

You're right. I'm sorry I had an opinion about the car club I've been with for 6 years. One thing everyone has failed to notice, is none of the mods, admins, or owner of WSC have endorsed this in any way. Now, I'm glad that members have stood up, and took all the effort of organizing it, and last years meet went really well overall, but isn't it a bit presumptuous to just say "This is the WSC supermeet, end of story." By that same logic, I can go, set up a Beyond.ca meet, invite 18 more clubs, and then have all responsibility on myself, including dragging the name potentially through the mud.

I've setup meets/cruises previously, and you can't control every single person, even when it's smaller (10-15). You can threaten, bluster, warn, etc, but you can't control people. We (reasonably) don't want the WSC name to encompass every single person that shows up and pays $5, only to have them do burnouts/drifts/whatever they want, and potentiallyhave that reflect the WSC name in front of every passerby that see's/hears about the meet, even if the person responsible was never part of club.

This is actually really predominant on the facebook group for WSC. It seems that 50% of the people on there don't have a forum account, another 25% are only lurkers, and yet as a public group, everything they say is seen as being "WSC". This actually caused a problem recently, where someone was planning to "steal" a parking lot from another meet, and it came down to a bunch of itchbaying back and forth, and the "member" responsible had never even signed up on the forum proper.

Anyways, I digress. The organizers wanted opinions, I gave mine, and whether you like it or not, a few people agreed with me. I don't plan on attending, as I use the super meet to see some OG members/friends from Edmonton, and most of the people I'd like to chat with aren't going anyways.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 25, 2014, 08:03:29 AM
I plan on going because it sounds like it's gonna turn into a pretty big enthusiasts gathering.

The WSC name/supermeat theme had been dropped so if there's tools about, let the authorities deal with them..
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Jesse.Korpan on April 25, 2014, 08:08:16 AM
Fair enough LDS its a shame the OG crew has no intrest in the meet but if that's your choice then so be it hopefully you'll change your minds.

To unfortunately distance ourselves further from the WSC name the email for submissions has been changed everywhere it was posted to submit86meet@gmail.com

To all Pro meet and Anti Meet users both sides have spoken we don't want to discourage attendance and we don't want this to turn into a itshay show blood bath we just want a meet.

Keep the ideas rolling for people who care for the people that would like to see this moved from a WSC meet to a meet with a few WSC members it has been done. Now that we have gotten that detail out of the way lets have some event ideas and logo submissions.



Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: snackers on April 25, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
Maybe that's an issue you guys have down your way, we made it to the meet last year with a good size group without 1 single person being a prick.

Correct. I drove down by myself.
;)
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Ambystom01 on April 25, 2014, 09:53:30 AM
Its seems like this thread is perhaps more about hate/fear then about unity/idea's. I know where all sides are coming from in the fact that some car clubs get itshay on for being ricers and street racers but this meet like all meets I have been to will be held to the same rules that WSC enforces even if WSC wants to distance itself as a flagship organization.

There will be on site security like last year who will be recording plate numbers and ejecting people who break the rules. The Cruise's will happen the exact same way people with in the cruise will monitor behaviour and if some one is getting out of line then they will be reported and not allowed into the meet.

I know that change in one way or another can be a scary thing but there comes a time in every clubs life when they come out of the offices and Tim horntons car parks and move to something bigger and better. If the meet doesn't work out this year and it turns into the negativity fest that only WSC members have predicted then I will gladly disband the group and no longer have any role of any kind in any WSC meet other then attending and lamenting what could have been.

With that said I still hope to see everyone out there this year and that we can put aside our petty differences / squabbles / fear / bitterness and enjoy some nice weather for a change with a bunch of people who like us spend to much money on a box on wheels and get strange looks when they stand in a parking lot in -10 weather talking about a fairing or a certain exhaust.

Fair enough LDS its a shame the OG crew has no intrest in the meet but if that's your choice then so be it hopefully you'll change your minds.

To unfortunately distance ourselves further from the WSC name the email for submissions has been changed everywhere it was posted to submit86meet@gmail.com

To all Pro meet and Anti Meet users both sides have spoken we don't want to discourage attendance and we don't want this to turn into a itshay show blood bath we just want a meet.

Keep the ideas rolling for people who care for the people that would like to see this moved from a WSC meet to a meet with a few WSC members it has been done. Now that we have gotten that detail out of the way lets have some event ideas and logo submissions.

You're taking this all way too personally. This isn't about hate, or fear, or a desire for the status quo. I don't think anybody has said this meet is a bad idea in an absolute sense. It's a cool idea in theory. However, the majority of criticisms revolve around the idea of calling a meet that involves several other clubs the WSC super meet. That's really it. The rest of the criticisms are more procedural in nature.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Perfect Dark on April 25, 2014, 10:02:12 AM
However, the majority of criticisms revolve around the idea of calling a meet that involves several other clubs the WSC super meet. That's really it. The rest of the criticisms are more procedural in nature.

Which has been rectified.

Honestly, I think now would be a great time for anyone who has no intentions on participating to back off a bit and let this thing evolve.  There are some very enthusiastic people trying to put this together and I sincerely hope it goes well.  As a long standing member I have my reservations but this conversation seems to be evolving away from being helpful and more to just writing off every other club participating which is just plain stupid and elitist.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: silent on April 25, 2014, 10:05:45 AM
You're right. I'm sorry I had an opinion about the car club I've been with for 6 years. One thing everyone has failed to notice, is none of the mods, admins, or owner of WSC have endorsed this in any way. Now, I'm glad that members have stood up, and took all the effort of organizing it, and last years meet went really well overall, but isn't it a bit presumptuous to just say "This is the WSC supermeet, end of story." By that same logic, I can go, set up a Beyond.ca meet, invite 18 more clubs, and then have all responsibility on myself, including dragging the name potentially through the mud.

I've setup meets/cruises previously, and you can't control every single person, even when it's smaller (10-15). You can threaten, bluster, warn, etc, but you can't control people. We (reasonably) don't want the WSC name to encompass every single person that shows up and pays $5, only to have them do burnouts/drifts/whatever they want, and potentiallyhave that reflect the WSC name in front of every passerby that see's/hears about the meet, even if the person responsible was never part of club.

This is actually really predominant on the facebook group for WSC. It seems that 50% of the people on there don't have a forum account, another 25% are only lurkers, and yet as a public group, everything they say is seen as being "WSC". This actually caused a problem recently, where someone was planning to "steal" a parking lot from another meet, and it came down to a bunch of itchbaying back and forth, and the "member" responsible had never even signed up on the forum proper.

Anyways, I digress. The organizers wanted opinions, I gave mine, and whether you like it or not, a few people agreed with me. I don't plan on attending, as I use the super meet to see some OG members/friends from Edmonton, and most of the people I'd like to chat with aren't going anyways.
Back when we had the Alberta Subaru Club, the guys at dc5ab generously allowed a bunch of the Subaru guys to drive down and join their meet in Sylvan Lake.  Actually, the previous owner of your car was in the group that drove down.  They didn't itchbay or complain, it was just a bunch of guys that loved cars and and enjoyed talking about them.  Why can't WSC members hold themselves to this standard and be perfectly open to anyone who has a genuine interest in attending?

I understand what you're saying about the OG (what's even considered OG these days?) people -- sometimes I'll show up to meets to catch up with some old ASC friends, but there are lots of other awesome people that are either newer members or don't drive a Subaru.  Hell, the most passionate and knowledgeable guys on my Formula SAE team, whose design and technical knowledge far outweighs almost everyone here, aren't Subaru guys at all.  They're BMW, VW, Honda guys but all have a passion for cars and will gladly hang out and discuss any make/model of vehicle, even if it's not their own.

Let Jesse do his thing.  He seems to be putting in a ton of work that many people here don't really seem to appreciate and all of these arguments really aren't helping further the discussion.
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: e13tankbuster on April 25, 2014, 10:15:44 AM
Back when we had the Alberta Subaru Club, the guys at dc5ab generously allowed a bunch of the Subaru guys to drive down and join their meet in Sylvan Lake.   

Let Jesse do his thing.  He seems to be putting in a ton of work that many people here don't really seem to appreciate and all of these arguments really aren't helping further the discussion.
I was at that dc5 meet in Sylvan Lake with my Acura! Years ago..

Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Stage2 on April 25, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
As a vendor on this forum I think its a great idea and I'm on board.  I've been here since ASC days so does that make me OG?! Lol

Lets get some design ideas going
Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: thetallone on April 25, 2014, 06:44:08 PM
If people feel the need to just have a meet with Subaru's (Much like last year) feel free to organize it, Ill go. Two big meets with different groups would be awesome and I have nothing against the people who dislike the way this particular event is being organized.

But Jesse was one of the couple organizers last year and is the main one this year, as such he has adapted it (and changed names) in a way that benefits more people and will raise more money for charity. WSC has now been listed as a club that is invited to this meet and not directly related to the organizing of it.  I believe that solves any issues on WSC's behalf.

Myself and others are also helping organize this meet as a way to see some nice cars, meet new people, raise some money for charity and just overall have a good time. Will there be quirks and problems, probably... Can't find out if the concept will work until it actually happens.


Gotta remember that if no one took the effort to organize these meets than there wouldn't be any at all.

With the meet being so big this year is there a way to set some ground rules for this meet? Probably be impossible to enforce but I think if there are some rules set up for the meet that could potentially prevent conflict between other clubs.

Rules will be made and posted on the respective forums of invited clubs and on the facebook group/event.
If numbers are any indication of turnout I am sure we will be talking with law enforcement in Red Deer to see if some sort of casual presence can be had to deter any people from feeling the need to show off.

Title: Re: WSC super meet 2014 ideas thread.
Post by: Rick on April 26, 2014, 12:45:09 AM
Two big meets with different groups would be awesome and I have nothing against the people who dislike the way this particular event is being organized.

You can never have too many meets, I try to make it to everyone I can.

With the exception of BP's.