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I looked seriously at the Ultima GTR, FFR GTM and the RCR SLC. They each have their Pros & Cons.Ultima GTR has an all steel frame and steel suspension. It has impressive performance and it photographs well. I had a chance to take a close look at a completed GTR at the Cars & Coffee event in Irvine CA. The body is gel coated so painting is optional. IMO, the body panel fitment and general construction was ok, but not up to the standard I would expect for its cost.FFR GTM has a steel frame and corvette suspension. I'm 5'11" and felt squashed in the cabin. It is tight both in leg room and in hip/shoulder room. I just couldn't get comfortable in it so I didn't think I would enjoy driving it. The tight hip/shoulder room is due to the huge center hump that houses the radiator lines, shifter, cables, etc. Owners have problems keeping the heat from the radiator lines from soaking into the cabin. The small driver door opening combined with the roll cage makes it chore to get in and out of. Owners say real life curb weight is about 2700lbs! The GTM is a very complete "bolt together" kit with everything you need including a full interior. The supplied interior is much better than it used to be, but IMO it's still sub-par. The body requires extensive body work and paint, which adds considerable cost. The GTM kit is about half the price of the GTR or SLC, but the additional cost of the Corvette donor parts, body/paint work and interior updates bring the total finished cost up to about the same as the GTR and SLC. The GTM is a street car that can be stripped to be raced.RCR SLC has an aluminum chassis and aluminum suspension. It is the lightest alternative. Depending upon the engine, transaxle and driver comforts, owners report 1750 - 2500lbs. The SLC is a race car, that can be made streetable. That means the side windows are fixed and things like emergency brake, interior, adjustable pedals, etc are optional. Some fabrication skills are needed to build custom motor mounts, exhaust, etc. Compared the GTR and GTM, the SLC is spacious inside with lots of leg, hip, and shoulder room. I'm not sure about head room. The body is gel coated so painting is optional.I selected the RCR SLC because I thought it had the best bones for a super car. It has ultra-light weight, true racing suspension, and can be made comfortable. I also think the SLC has the best looking body style.
I went through the same process...GTM or Ultima and had decided on the GTM for a whole host of issues. Then more info was coming out on the SL-C and I was sold on that. It was a better fit for me in all aspects.MY rankings...Outright performance: Ultima, SL-C, GTM. Though the SL-C is yet unproven, it should have the potential to match, and possibly even surpass the proven Ultima. The GTM in all likelihood with equal powerplants probably won't keep up with either in any category and as of yet, is also unproven. Richards race car doesn't count.Exterior looks: SL-C, GTM, Ultima. This is VERY subjective obviously. I do love the supercar look of the GTM but I like the racecar look of the SL-C better. Ultima doesn't hold a candle to either. I've seen all three in person too.Interior: SL-C, GTM, Ultima. Even from the limited pictures available, the SL-C is the hands down winner. In a few weeks I have a feeling we will see some pics of an RCR production complete and installed interior when a customer takes delivery of his. The GTM's as-is interior is decent though there are many issues with it.Practicality: GTM, SL-C, Ultima. The GTM gets the nod here for two simple reasons, power side windows and slightly more ride height. Both cars have A/C and heaters. The SL-C does have the option of fold down side windows and an electric hydraulic lift for the front (and rear if wanted) to help with steeper driveways but that is certainly not as practical as the GTM. Given all of that, I'm not a very practical person and would comute in an F1 car given the chance Standard build time: SL-C, Ultima, GTM. This all depends on the builder and what he chooses to do with the build of course. The SL-C comes as a roller and is a non-donor build with body work fitted, though not completed. The GTM needs a donor and TONS of bodywork and a whole host of other issues. Every builder on this forum knows . The Ultima "looks" straight forward and appears to fall somewhere between the SL-C and GTM due to it's more spartan as-is spec's.My build time: SL-C, Ultima, GTM. Due to a ton of customization I'd be doing, starting off with a roller and a non-donor is a no-brainer.Standard build cost: GTM, SL-C, Ultima. Argue all you want.MY build cost: SL-C, GTM, Ultima. Due to the fact that I'm installing a 3-rotor engine, I could not use most of the donor parts for the GTM and would have to source parts individually. That factor alone offsets the cost between the entry price of the SL-C and GTM. Basically all I could use was the suspension and some interior parts (I would also do a custom interior on the GTM). Money saved on bodywork with the SL-C, and perhaps even the Ultima also offset the costs compared to the GTM. If I were to do the GTM, fender louvers, full frame doors, right rear wheel well fix, broken nose fix all add up quickly. I've seen the finish on the supplied SL-C and it's almost ready to go as-is.-DaveSL-C on the way.
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LF: Porsche or transaxle gearbox expertG50 or Mendeola Just a pipedream now... But if I were looking for either of the above where is a good spot to start looking?
The Ultima GTR is a sports car manufactured by Ultima Sports Ltd of Hinckley, Leicestershire, England, and described by commentators as a supercar.[2][3] The car is available both in kit form and as a "turnkey" (i.e. assembled by the factory) vehicle. The design is mid engined, rear wheel drive layout, with a tubular steel space frame chassis and GRP bodywork. A convertible version called the Ultima Can-Am is also produced. Kit builders are free to source and fit a variety of engines and transmissions but the Chevrolet small block V8 supplied by American Speed mated to either a Porsche or Getrag transaxle is the factory recommended standard, and this configuration is fitted to all turnkey cars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultima_GTR
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I've ridden along in this one at an event:Ultima by PoweredByAloe, on FlickrQuite the ride!!
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