I did talk to light speed in red deer, but Cam didn't take my call. Only talked to the receptionist about pricing. I have heard only bad things about comp clutch's organic disc, but some people claim good and bad about the segmented ceramic discs. Chatter is expected they said (Comp clutch themselves) which isn't really acceptable in my books. As for power holding on the ceramic disc, 8 puck or the 6 puck, remains a question.