If you are referring to the powder gulch express, the map is deceiving. It shows a black run underneath the chair, which would have you believe that they chair climbs steeply, and that all the runs in that area are somewhat steep. But it's not the case. PART of the runs down there are actually steep, and fun in deep snow. But if you board, it sucks because you have to go flat out through a bunch of stupid flat sections to get to the steep parts. I understand what you are saying JimmEh...That was the part of the hill I was looking forward to the most. But in the end, I was disappointed.