Author Topic: Marvin; Red's 86 Toyota MR2 - Frozen, Clutched, and Exhausted (Read 30492 times)

RedndWhite · « **on:** March 18, 2015, 08:48:08 pm »

Ahead lies the story of Marvin, the whip and experimentation into something completely different.

First, I bought something, named it Rusty... and it didn't work. But I had the taste of a light, quick, quirky little car. I wanted more. So....

Off to Kijiji I went, looking for another dose of stupidity. Wait, no. I mean deals.

What I found, was this: a 1986 MR2, sunroof (I really wanted T-tops, but those are in high demand) in green with minimal rust, a meh bondo job on the rear quarters, complete interior, stock 1986 wheels that are have very little curb rash (if any) and two sets of tires. Picked it up Friday night, put in 30 bucks to fill the tank from empty, and proceeded drive. Rusty, bless it's cheap carcass, has now become a surplus of parts.

I think I'll live without the t-tops.

It is so weird seeing your car behind you and wanting to drive both.

North of Cremona on Highway 22.

Wong Photography performing amazing work, as always:

Including a photoshoot:
http://www.westernsubaruclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=51613.0;topicseen

Wishlist for now
wishlist for later
Purchased
Installed

Powertrain and Drivetrain
Intake trumpets/velocity stacks
Entire exhaust system; one option through SV3 Power
New water pump
New alternator
Coolant clean at 224k (Preston flush and water for 6 hours over a week, new coolant for 6 hours and drop, then proper 50/50 here on out).
Light weight crank pulley
Head gasket kit

Turning and Braking
Koni struts
Eibach Springs
polyurethane bushings
front and rear sway bars

Tires
Daily Driver tires: Stock rims w/ 195/60r14 Champiro something or others on the front; brand new Coopers CS3 Tourings on the rear.
Winters: probably Steelies with the 185/65r14 Cooper tires that came on the stock rims originally, after looking at them, they're brand new.
Rspec 15'' rims with falkens that are balder than I am
13" Steelies with 155/80r13 Hankook Studded Winter Tires

Interior and Body... JOIN THE ANTI-RUST MOVEMENT Bought new car with less crust
Evo 10 Recaros *THEY ARE AMAZING*
CB Radio and antenna
T3 shift knob
Projectors and retrofit the sealed beam
Rear Quarters!
fender flairs for mahoosiver tires

Light Bar Supply Foglights (2x3 rectangles)
How-To and Data Dump
Front bushing install
Rear bushing install
Alignment Specs to try out
Pads and Wheels with lots of good information
How to make the car handle or TRD Spec suspension setups
Install ITBs!... mmmmmm ITB

RedBimmer93 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 18, 2015, 10:16:40 pm »

Oh my, that's quite the ~~ru-~~ MR2 you have there! Nice find!! If you don't mind me asking, how many km does the car have on it??

I vote you make this car you autox itchbay this summer then I won't have to feel left out, being the only guy with practically non-existent rockers

(Plus I bet this thing would be a lot of fun!)

RedndWhite · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2015, 11:06:44 pm »

Quote from: RedBimmer93 on March 18, 2015, 10:16:40 pm

Oh my, that's quite the ~~ru-~~ MR2 you have there! Nice find!! If you don't mind me asking, how many km does the car have on it??

I vote you make this car you autox itchbay this summer then I won't have to feel left out, being the only guy with practically non-existent rockers
(Plus I bet this thing would be a lot of fun!)

235 thou and change. And that is the goal, summer car it, never have the roof on, and just rip.

LilDrunkenSmurf · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2015, 07:06:23 am »

Is it Supercharged?

RedndWhite · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2015, 07:51:32 am »

Quote from: LilDrunkenSmurf on March 19, 2015, 07:06:23 am

Is it Supercharged?

No, unfortunately no supercharger on this one.

LilDrunkenSmurf · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2015, 07:59:08 am »

Pinkdonut666 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2015, 08:18:17 am »

Looks like I'm not the only one on the WSC with one of these As a project!

I saw the add on kijiji for this one...

If there is any take offs from my build that might be usefull for you you're welcome to them...

Pinkdonut666 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2015, 08:25:06 am »

Quote from: LilDrunkenSmurf on March 19, 2015, 07:59:08 am

Yet.

Honestly if you are going to the trouble of swapping from a 4AGE to a GZE, you may as well just swap in a 3SGTE.

GZEs are incredibly hard to find these days, and are getting more and more expensive.

and I can certainly say that the supercharger is A MASSIVE pain in the assay to get working properly, and finding a supercharger that isn't uckfayed is almost impossible.

I'm onl. Sticking that route because I want to do something different then the mk1.5 that everyone does... But I'm also crazy and willing to put up with the itshay that the supercharge r throws at me. Not worth it IMHO

RedndWhite · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2015, 09:29:35 am »

Quote from: Pinkdonut666 on March 19, 2015, 08:25:06 am

Honestly if you are going to the trouble of swapping from a 4AGE to a GZE, you may as well just swap in a 3SGTE.

GZEs are incredibly hard to find these days, and are getting more and more expensive.

and I can certainly say that the supercharger is A MASSIVE pain in the assay to get working properly, and finding a supercharger that isn't uckfayed is almost impossible.

I'm onl. Sticking that route because I want to do something different then the mk1.5 that everyone does... But I'm also crazy and willing to put up with the itshay that the supercharge r throws at me. Not worth it IMHO

I was looking to stay with the 4AGE, but to the blacktop. Throw one in this beast, one in the other rusted out Toyota in the drive way, and proceed to have shenanigans. But I'll definitely look into the 3gste.

I didn't realise that they also had a "trunk" (no, not the frunk).

Quote from: Pinkdonut666 on March 19, 2015, 08:18:17 am

Looks like I'm not the only one on the WSC with one of these As a project!

I saw the add on kijiji for this one...

If there is any take offs from my build that might be usefull for you you're welcome to them...

Thanks, I think help is more along the lines of what i may require. It's actually cause of your car that I made me pull the trigger.

Smurf, I'll get forced induction some day.

RedndWhite · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2015, 10:18:45 am »

Replacement panels are relatively cheap if I went that way.
http://www.alfaparts.net/mr2.HTMl

Pinkdonut666 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2015, 11:18:55 am »

Quote from: RedndWhite on March 19, 2015, 09:29:35 am

Thanks, I think help is more along the lines of what i may require. It's actually cause of your car that I made me pull the trigger.

Yeah no problem just shoot me a PM!

there isnt a part on my car I haven't pulled off lol. I'm not expert at all, but I'm certai not very familiar with how this little car comes apart and goes together...

I also have the Big Green Toyota service manual for the N/A and SC cars so that might be helpful for you...

And as far as engines that are NA I might also look at a silver top if you can get one cheap enough

05LGT · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2015, 02:24:42 pm »

Pinkdonut666 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2015, 02:28:59 pm »

Quote from: 05LGT on March 19, 2015, 02:24:42 pm

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Those Group N rally cars are things of myth and legend made of unobtanium and star dust....

05LGT · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2015, 02:37:27 pm »

Quote from: Pinkdonut666 on March 19, 2015, 02:28:59 pm

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Those Group N rally cars are things of myth and legend made of unobtanium and star dust....

Well one of you two are gonna have to do it

Rathburn · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2015, 02:43:32 pm »

BEAMS all the way!!

Pinkdonut666 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:38:30 pm »

Quote from: 05LGT on March 19, 2015, 02:37:27 pm

Well one of you two are gonna have to do it

Well mine is gonna be bonkers but not quite that bonkers...

Those group N cars had an aluminum 4A block if I recall and were AWD... Not for mere mortals...

But I'm gonna be aiming for like 350hp on the bottle

05LGT · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2015, 03:49:19 pm »

Quote from: Pinkdonut666 on March 19, 2015, 03:38:30 pm

Well mine is gonna be bonkers but not quite that bonkers...

Those group N cars had an aluminum 4A block if I recall and were AWD... Not for mere mortals...

But I'm gonna be aiming for like 350hp on the bottle

I believe the one I linked had something closer to...1000HP?

RedndWhite · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2015, 05:26:49 pm »

Quote from: Rathburn on March 19, 2015, 02:43:32 pm

BEAMS all the way!!

Does a 4th Gen 3gse beams share the same mounting points as the 3gste? I assume that it does because it's the same architecture, but one never knows until it's asked.
The price even looks to be similar to what I was expecting for the 4age blacktop.. Interesting. That's a very good potential. 200 horses NA.

Smurf sent me a link to another mr2, with a working engine, I may grab that and swap the working engine in. We'll see what next weekend brings.

Quote from: 05LGT on March 19, 2015, 02:24:42 pm

Dat wide body

That is the stuff of dreams right there.

Rathburn · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2015, 05:49:12 pm »

Quote from: RedndWhite on March 19, 2015, 05:26:49 pm

Does a 4th Gen 3gse beams share the same mounting points as the 3gste? I assume that it does because it's the same architecture, but one never knows until it's asked.
The price even looks to be similar to what I was expecting for the 4age blacktop.. Interesting. That's a very good potential. 200 horses NA.

I'm not at all sure. Looking at it a little more in depth, the engine was used in the MR2, Caldina, and RAV-4, all of which are transverse applications, so it might work.

RedndWhite · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2015, 07:03:30 pm »

Quote from: Rathburn on March 19, 2015, 05:49:12 pm

I'm not at all sure. Looking at it a little more in depth, the engine was used in the MR2, Caldina, and RAV-4, all of which are transverse applications, so it might work.

All signs are pointing to the way of "it can be done", which I may eventually do.
Oh, look, someone has done it: http://www.mr2.com/forums/threads/97603-My-SW11-Build
That's definitely in for consideration!

But right now, I have three priorities.

1) get it in my driveway (yeah, it's still at the seller's place until I can get the trailer there Saturday)
2) make it run, cheaply.
3) take 'er fer a rip.

Once winter hits, body work and other wonderful types of shenanigans will be done. Like an engine swap, and some less rusty panels. Or new sheet metal.

RedndWhite · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2015, 05:22:15 pm »

We made it.... 1 and 3/4 around the block before the engine went with a wonderfully catastrophic boom and grinding halt.

jsn · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2015, 07:35:27 pm »

Seeing all the WSCers with their AW11 makes me really regret selling mine. Sold it about 6 years ago

RedndWhite · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2015, 07:51:49 pm »

Quote from: jsn on March 21, 2015, 07:35:27 pm

Seeing all the WSCers with their AW11 makes me really regret selling mine. Sold it about 6 years ago

Get another one

For the one block, it was a blast. I'm excited to see where it goes.

Bonus, the angry lawn mower

seat safety switch · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2015, 05:30:20 pm »

Tough break, shouldn't be too hard to find a replacement motor at least

Quote from: jsn on March 21, 2015, 07:35:27 pm

Seeing all the WSCers with their AW11 makes me really regret selling mine. Sold it about 6 years ago

He says immediately after a post where a WSCer's AW11 breaks and has to be towed home.

RedndWhite · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2015, 06:25:35 pm »

Quote from: seat safety switch on March 22, 2015, 05:30:20 pm

Tough break, shouldn't be too hard to find a replacement motor at least
He says immediately after a post where a WSCer's AW11 breaks and has to be towed home.

The second aw11, Donut needed to tow his home.

I knew the engine was gonna go, I've been preparing for it. Been looking, haven't been finding. Jory, the great influence he is, has been sending me links.