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Offline Stehle

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy!
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2016, 07:21:36 pm »
Yeah, when I visited that link I didn't think it would be as simple as shoving it in front of the VIN plate.. I've read you pretty much have to strip the entire dash down.
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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy!
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2016, 07:32:21 pm »
Holy balls the dash rattle was insanely bad tonight.

I like left foot braking in this car though.
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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy!
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2016, 08:06:09 pm »
Holy balls the dash rattle was insanely bad tonight.

I like left foot braking in this car though.

I'm sure i will enjoy left foot braking in the S2000 at Autocross too  ;)

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #53 on: February 22, 2016, 06:08:24 pm »
So with these winter wheels and tires on, my legacy had a really bad shake on the highway. I brought it in to the shop today to have my wheels rebalanced. One of my wheels was off by 3oz!! :o

I took it for a rip down the highway, and the majority of the vibration is gone! I was worried that one of my wheels was bent, but Im glad to find that this is not the case. There is still a very slight vibration present. I believe my extremely worn winter tires are contributing to this. They only have 4/32's of tread left. :P

Unfortunately when my car was in the shop, the tech noticed that one of my front springs broke :'(


I have a set of Tein S-Tech springs sitting in my garage. I was holding on to these until I had a set of billestien HD shocks to replace my bouncy OEM ones, then i would replace the springs and shocks together. In light of this discovery however, I might just be throwing the springs on my current OEM shocks for the time being. These springs are supposed to give my car a 1.5" drop, so I am going to need to source a pair of saggy butt spacers ASAP to prevent my mudflaps from continuously dragging on the ground as I drive :P

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #54 on: February 22, 2016, 09:43:17 pm »
They also gave me a complimentary multi-point inspection. Apparently my car is in A+ Condition :P

Subaru Calgary, you done good :P

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #55 on: February 23, 2016, 01:01:01 am »
Once upon a time, my mom called me and said, "My car is making a loud grinding noise, I don't think I should drive it." The spring broke while parked, and the coil itself was riding on the tire. The grinding noise was the coil dragging over the tire tread. What you got is so minor, I'd just roll with it until you find some Bilsteins. At worst, you're just advancing the wear on your already worn winters, so #yolo.
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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #56 on: February 23, 2016, 07:24:20 am »
I would probably opt for fatal colorectal cancer before I put a set of S-Techs on anything I own, but it's your funeral.

They're like the Donald Trump of suspension. You're better off going to the drop-in centre and paying a guy to punch you in the testicles.

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #57 on: February 23, 2016, 07:33:49 am »
I might have something else lined up instead of the teins >:D

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #58 on: February 23, 2016, 07:38:45 am »
So, Subaru Calgary gave you a passing inspection but your front spring was broken??

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #59 on: February 23, 2016, 07:41:20 am »
Ah man, bummer about the spring! :(

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #60 on: February 23, 2016, 07:42:52 am »
So, Subaru Calgary gave you a passing inspection but your front spring was broken??

Apparently. I don't think my spring broke in the past week since I have been there  ::)

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #61 on: February 23, 2016, 08:35:26 am »
This begs the question; did they even inspect the car & brake lines?
Sorry to hear that. Personally, I'd avoid driving it until the issue was addressed.

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #62 on: February 23, 2016, 01:31:03 pm »
I have a set of 05 OEM springs from a wagon.. Not sure about your Bilstein compatibility though.  Taken off ~60k kms.
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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - The Begining of a Legacy! (pending slammage)
« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2016, 01:50:13 pm »
This begs the question; did they even inspect the car & brake lines?
Sorry to hear that. Personally, I'd avoid driving it until the issue was addressed.

I hope so, that is the sole reason I brought my car in! I suppose that's what I get for bringing my car in for a free service :P

It might have been broken for a long time. That might explain why my car has that unsettled-feeling over bumps, haha!!
 
 
 
I have a set of 05 OEM springs from a wagon.. Not sure about your Bilstein compatibility though.  Taken off ~60k kms.

Thanks for the heads up, I will look into it :)

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2016, 07:53:29 pm »
Plans have changed a little bit.

I sold my tein springs a few days ago, and today, I picked up a set of used springs off a 2009 STi. They should fit into my legacy struts just fine (at least the front ones), and they should, in theory (:P), eliminate the danger that is driving around on a broken coil spring. They should also give my car a slight drop. Slight drop is good.

I would like to install the new springs over the weekend if I can. I have never used a spring compressor before, so it would be a learning experience for me :)

The STi Springs definetly have a little bit more length than the teins.... but only in the back??? ???

Might eliminate the need for saggy butt spacers anyway ::)


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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2016, 10:38:18 pm »
I have never used a spring compressor before, so it would be a learning experience for me :)

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #66 on: March 31, 2016, 12:03:26 am »
Spring is just around the corner...



(get it?? ::))
 
 
 
Last night, Stehle and I began the spring swap on my legacy. Neither of us have done this before, so it was a learning experience for both of us.

Here's what happened:
  • Started with the broken spring first.
  • Strut assemblies came out of the car a lot more easily than I thought they would.
  • Noticed that the Lower control arm busings on the car are indeed very worn out
  • Spring compressors I borrowed from my dad bottomed out with only minimal tension being applied to the spring.
  • Hours were spent running to princess auto buy better spring compressors. I found some for 40% off, woohoo!
  • New spring compressors still bottomed out before much tension was applied to springs.
  • New spring compressors had to be used in conjunction with the old ones to "leapfrog" the springs and apply them to more coils and apply more tension.
  • Working on the broken spring sucks because of the steep angle of some of the coils. (Spring compressor, please don't fall off!!)
  • 4 spring compressors in total were used on one spring. James thought we were crazy for doing this until we showed him how un-effective 2 spring compressors were. :P
    (4 compressors also doubles the time you would spend releasing the spring compressors)
  • STi springs only needed 2 spring compressors to clear the top of the strut assembly.
  • Second strut took less than 1/3 of the time because now we finally kinda knew what we were doing.
  • Re-installed suspension bits, and torqued them down. Re-installed wheels, called it a night. :(

Yep, we actually used 4 compressors. We are pro's at this:



Lanky and soft OEM spring vs STi Spring.
This is the broken spring, all together it would have sat almost "one coil" higher.


Conclusion: I really suck at changing springs, and I should never work on my own car again. We never actually got to the rear springs by the end of the night, and now one of my strut mounts if making a brutal noise when the steering wheel is turned far to the left. >:(

Other results:
  • Front of the car sits close to the same height as before, but just slightly lower.
  • A lot of the looseness in the front of the car that you used to experience over bumps is gone now. I fixed something!!!1
  • Car is a lot more well controlled over bumps, and it feels as if turn-in is a little sharper now. These STi springs work really well with the Spec B Billestiens.
  • My car has STi pedigree now ::)

Rear ones should be a bit easier than the front ones were. I say this now, but I will start working on this and it would probably actually take almost 2 days :P
Should be interesting to see how this turns out though. I'm confident it would make the rear of my car actually sit higher than it does now. We will see...

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #67 on: March 31, 2016, 06:43:50 am »
Which strut mount is making the noise?

I'm going to go ahead and guess the driver side.  :(

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #68 on: March 31, 2016, 06:54:03 am »
Looks like a good evening of work in the garage - I don't know much at all about springs/ struts/ suspension but..
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A lot of the looseness in the front of the car that you used to experience over bumps is gone now. I fixed something!!!1
Car is a lot more well controlled over bumps, and it feels as if turn-in is a little sharper now. These STi springs work really well with the Spec B Billestiens.
Sounds like you made some success!!! *thumbsup*! Good job dudes!

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #69 on: March 31, 2016, 07:38:53 am »
Which strut mount is making the noise?

I'm going to go ahead and guess the driver side.  :(

Yep that would be it. I wonder what happened :/
 
 
Looks like a good evening of work in the garage - I don't know much at all about springs/ struts/ suspension but..Sounds like you made some success!!! *thumbsup*! Good job dudes!


There was mild success lol

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2016, 07:49:59 am »
Not entirely sure why 4 spring compressors were nessessary.

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2016, 07:58:13 am »
Not entirely sure why 4 spring compressors were nessessary.

The spring compressors would bottom out before the spring would compress enough to release from the strut. Had to use extra spring compressors to bite onto additional coils after you compressed the first ones

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #72 on: March 31, 2016, 07:59:27 am »
The spring compressors would bottom out before the spring would compress enough to release from the strut. Had to use extra spring compressors to bite onto additional coils after you compressed the first ones

Couldn't you just use a lower coil? Like you really only compress the spring enough to get tension off the tophat. You don't need a foot of clearance.
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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #73 on: March 31, 2016, 08:18:44 am »
Couldn't you just use a lower coil? Like you really only compress the spring enough to get tension off the tophat. You don't need a foot of clearance.
I couldn't use a lower coil because spring seat at the bottom wouldn't allow us the clearance to get the spring compressor in. We had to use another spring compressor to lift the spring high enough that we would actually be able to get one to bite.

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Re: RB93's 2008 Spec B - Spring into action!!
« Reply #74 on: March 31, 2016, 08:21:01 am »
If you're lifting the spring enough so that you can get under the last coil, wouldn't that mean you don't have any tension, or minimal tension, on the tophat?
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