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RB93's Laggin Wagon Ver 2 - Town Bicycle survives Ice Dice!
« on: March 13, 2017, 12:32:40 AM »
This is a continuation/lovechild of two historic WSC Subaru projects:

http://www.westernsubaruclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=14015.0                          http://www.westernsubaruclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=25997.0
       
 

- The new story begins here -
 


This is the Laggin Wagon. It is a high mileage, rebuilt-title, piece of itshay, but it is an great car, and I have enjoyed it for, quite frankly, far longer than even I expected that i would. I had grown deeply attached to it, and people look at me, scratch their heads, and think im a retard.

This car was sort of a gateway drug to me to motorsport. Using this car, i have attend my first autocross, rallycross, and ice racing events, I became hooked at driving my car fast around cones. I even took this car on 1600km trip to interior BC and back.... Mechanically, this car is a champ.

However, the shell on this car was a complete disaster. I am lucky to have survived driving it. The whole time i owned it, people have been pushing me to re-shell the car...:

-The left rear quarter of the car was made of bondo. (Rebuilt title)
-Water, dust, and snow entered the car through many orephesous. Passengers has
-The rockers didnt exist anymore. In some areas, the rust crept up to the door sills.
-**Strut tower rust:** The strut tower on the passenger side was ready to separate from the body... How do you fix this!? The rust in some areas was bad enough for me to put my finger through it. The front and top edges literally do not connect to the outside wall of the car anymore...


This caused some issues with the alignment...

 
 
 
Fortunately, someone hit the car while I was leaving ice dice at ghost lake. Caused a little more damage to the shell. Seems minor? ???


 
 

What it did:
-Created a huge gap under the tailgate on the driver side compared to the passenger side
-Buckled the rear cargo floor between the strut tower and the back of the car
-Pushed the rear quarter forward so now the door doesn't open and close very well
-Tweeked the drivers side strut tower, so now the alignment is even more wonkus
-Sheared off the bolt on the rear strut tower bar... the strut tower bar that is actually holding the assay end of this car together



If it didn't make sense to replace the car before, it certainly made a little more sense after this happened... I probably could have put a new taillight in, got another alignment, and continue crabwalking the car down the road...

Instead, I became that guy who retired the legend that is the laggin wagon at 383,300km, leaving behind a nearly 50 page legacy of the $2000 car built on cheap hand-me-down parts, with no uckfays ever given...... I'm a horrible person :'( :-[
 
 
 
Well, there is no turning back now.
 
 
 
 
 

Here is the new thing I bought that nobody will care about ::) - Laggin Wagon Ver 2.0
 








Some of you WSC old'timers may recognise this car, originally owned by WSC member RedndWhite
http://www.westernsubaruclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=25997.0

It was purchased by the previous owner as the parts car for the Laggin wagon... Low and behold, the roles have reversed. I bought the car from him, and this car is now the carcass for which all the good parts for the current Laggin will be swapped into, hereby creating Laggin Wagon 2.0  >:D


The car is a 1998 Subaru Impreza Brighton, which originally from Bowen Island, BC, and has around 160,000km on it. However, It is by no means pristine. She is certainly not pretty. This car has had a hard life. It has seen a fair amount of abuse, and spend most of its time sitting on a farm for the last 3 years. The interior smells like transmission fluid and mouse poo. The tank still contains the same gas it had in it almost 3 years ago... However, at the end of the day, she has it where it counts.  :angel:


 
 
 
 
Rear quarters are in decent shape. They have very little rust. Presumably, so do the strut towers.
Also, some usable 15" Dunlop winter tires

 

Rockers are largely intact as well. Less risk of car bending in half.

 

It did have a run-in with a tree back in its day. Hence why one of it's doors is currently silver.... OOPS!!

 
 
Rear swaybar endlinks are disconnected. Someone has been enjoying this car ::)

 

This car has the original hatch from the Laggin Wagon... meaning you cannot open it without reaching your fingers through, and contracting tetanus :-[

 

No rear wiper or 3rd brake light either ???

 

Dem JDM tails, tho 8)

 

The car came with.... Spare parts????

 

No separate reservoir for the rear washer fluid. I will no longer have this novelty. :'(

 

The new car has the face-lifted interior, with a glorious tan and brown colour combination, and contrasting black 2.5rs seats  8)

 
 
No stereo, surrounded by custom-painted red trim

 
 
and.... yellow trim??  ???


 
Plans for a roof scoop have also been made at one point...
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JDM yo STi cluster, complete with non-functioning speedometer

 
 
Under the hood... Phase 2 Phase 1 EJ22 motor, same as what's in the old car. Apparently this motor leaks a ton of oil, but it seems to run smooth and quiet. Unsure what to do about it at this point. Clutch is >1000km old, and feels great.

 
 
It is quite horny..

 
 
Somebody installed the battery tie-down wrong. I will fix that...
...also, where did the windshield washer reservoir go?? ???

 
 
 
That's the car. It's green, its less rusty, and it feels more solid-er. It should be good.
 
MUCH of the original laggin wagon is going to be swapped into this new shell. As soon as i re-obtain my garage space, and I develop some funds, the swap will begin, and the original car will receive a proper sendoff.
 
 
There is a lot of work to do. When the swap commences, extra hands would certainly be appreciated

 
Oh, and thx for reading!

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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2017, 06:51:15 AM »
Looks good man. Can't wait to see even less uckfays given, in a safer way.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2017, 07:11:10 AM »
This is awesome ;D ;D

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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2017, 07:53:09 AM »
Looks workable. Probably won't fall apart on the highway.

Man, I miss my '97.

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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2017, 09:01:26 AM »
Looks good.

Does the rear washer bottle not swap over?

Something I learned over the years is that if you want your thread to be popular you just need to ask people what colour you should paint random parts, or which colour accent lights to add. :D
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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2017, 09:41:15 AM »
Looks good.

Does the rear washer bottle not swap over?

Something I learned over the years is that if you want your thread to be popular you just need to ask people what colour you should paint random parts, or which colour accent lights to add. :D

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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2017, 09:46:38 AM »
Thought I'd pop in and check the thread to see if there's anything to care about. I wasn't disappointed to find there's nothing.

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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2017, 11:07:54 AM »
This caused some issues with the alignment...

While I'm sure the rust didn't help the alignment I'm fairly sure the largest issue leading to positive camber was "some guys" used a dremel to slot the rear mounting points out in order to fit GD rear tophats.

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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2017, 12:17:39 PM »
Looks good.

Does the rear washer bottle not swap over?

Something I learned over the years is that if you want your thread to be popular you just need to ask people what colour you should paint random parts, or which colour accent lights to add. :D

Thanks!

The 98's front washer bottle services both the front and rear glass. I'm sure the rear bottle would swap over pretty easily... I'm not sure whether or not it's worth the effort to make it functional. :P

If anybody has a washer bottle from a late 90's subaru wagon for free, let me know :P
 
Also, what colour accent lighting should i add in the new washer bottle when i get it?? ???
 

While I'm sure the rust didn't help the alignment I'm fairly sure the largest issue leading to positive camber was "some guys" used a dremel to slot the rear mounting points out in order to fit GD rear tophats.

* GrantC whistles innocently

The new car will likely receive the same treatment with the dremel ::)

I had a crazy toe issue. That tire was on the FR corner (which i moved to the RR), and it went from reasonable tread to near bald in >1500km


all the corners wanted to track to the right, except for the front right, which wanted to track to the left 8)

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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2017, 12:46:28 PM »
There was an alignment done on the New Project before selling... I wanna say 2000km or so before selling.

That magnet is still on the roof? Impressive.

What did happen to the washer res....
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2017, 01:16:23 PM »
subbd for wagon goodness.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2017, 03:23:33 PM »
There was an alignment done on the New Project before selling... I wanna say 2000km or so before selling.

That magnet is still on the roof? Impressive.

What did happen to the washer res....

And now i am going to ruin this alignment by swapping in the struts and springs from the old car >:D

I assume the washer reservoir ended up in the laggin wagon. I'm sure the original one dried up and cracked, or something...

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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2017, 03:50:50 PM »
I also remember doing the front struts... Would have been the first time I lived in Calgary.

Man, my documentation skills on this car sucked.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2017, 09:36:30 PM »
Swap the brakes too!
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2017, 11:56:34 PM »
Swap the brakes too!

Oh yeah, the brakes...

The new car currently has rear drums. Those are definetly going to be pulled and replaced by the LW's 02 Fozzy rear discs...

However, the front brakes on the new car are larger than they were on the old car. In theory this would mean more braking power. I haven't tried them yet, but what I do know is that my 14" ice dice rims wont fit over the calipers.


 
The calipers look pretty crusty as well



 

The brakes on the old car did work pretty well... So in the interest of maintaining the old car's perfect brake bias, and to take advantage of using cheap 14" tires, I think am going to swap over the smaller front brakes from the old car as well. :)
(It's cheaper than buying new tires and rims for ice dice next year)

Speak up if you think this is crazy! :-X

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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2017, 06:59:07 AM »
I think that's crazy.
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2017, 09:38:34 AM »
do it
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2017, 09:45:26 AM »
I think it's a good idea. Like going from brembos to 4 pots to fit rally wheels!
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« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2017, 10:05:39 AM »
I think that's crazy.

I'm with LDS on this one.

It's crazy, keep the bigger brakes.
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Re: RB93's new project, that nobody will care about...
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2017, 10:32:12 AM »
brakes are brakes are brakes. Does it stop your car? then theyre good enough.

if not, get stronger legs.



Ice dice wheels and tires however, are expensive. one one hand you can have free brakes and free wheels, and on the other hand you can have free brakes and spend $600 on new wheels.

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« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2017, 10:43:07 AM »
brakes are brakes are brakes. Does it stop your car? then theyre good enough.

if not, get stronger legs.



Ice dice wheels and tires however, are expensive. one one hand you can have free brakes and free wheels, and on the other hand you can have free brakes and spend $600 on new wheels.

If you've seen RB93's wheel selection, that won't be the issue. The issue will be the tires. His only cheater studs are in the 14'' size.
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« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2017, 10:47:29 AM »
yah so i mean its still an issue. Cant fit 14" tires on a wheel thats bigger than 14". 14" wheels wont clear the brakes. Even if thats not the case, now you gotta pay out the nose for some clown to mount and balance? get outta town.
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« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2017, 11:41:51 AM »
yah so i mean its still an issue. Cant fit 14" tires on a wheel thats bigger than 14". 14" wheels wont clear the brakes. Even if thats not the case, now you gotta pay out the nose for some clown to mount and balance? get outta town.

I'm fairly sure he gets mounting done free/does it himself.
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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2017, 11:42:53 AM »
I'm fairly sure he gets mounting done free/does it himself.


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« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2017, 12:27:01 PM »
I'm fairly sure he gets mounting done free/does it himself.

I did at one point. Pretty sure I don't have that luxury anymore :'(