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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #350 on: October 08, 2019, 08:28:31 pm »
I love your personal commentary
I couldn't hear anything over the sound of a toolbox worth of wrenches sliding around every turn... at least I think it is..

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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #351 on: October 08, 2019, 10:12:23 pm »
Wheel to wheel racing is scary stuff.  Wow. 

And 10sec is fast :O
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #352 on: October 08, 2019, 10:19:19 pm »
I couldn't hear anything over the sound of a toolbox worth of wrenches sliding around every turn... at least I think it is..

I don't know where that was coming from. I wanna say glovebox.

I love your personal commentary

I totally forgot that I had said stuff while cutting this down... No idea what I said XD

Wheel to wheel racing is scary stuff.  Wow. 

And 10sec is fast :O

It's not bad. I'm more scared of the walls than the people beside me... Or 10Sec spinning in front :P

Yes, he's a solid 6 seconds faster.

There was a hurrican in my run group and I didn't bother lifting when letting him pass. My instructor, "common courtesy is to li..." *Hurrican blitzed by* "never mind, cocky astardbay".
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #353 on: October 08, 2019, 10:53:09 pm »
I don't know where that was coming from. I wanna say glovebox.

I thought it was your keys.
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #354 on: October 08, 2019, 11:05:50 pm »
It sounded like keys or wrenches
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #355 on: October 08, 2019, 11:36:53 pm »
I thought it was your keys.

I thought it was cutlery
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #356 on: October 09, 2019, 09:11:13 am »
I thought it was cutlery

RnW always struck me as a wartime Nazi looting people's silverware. 
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #357 on: October 09, 2019, 02:19:08 pm »
RnW always struck me as a wartime Nazi looting people's silverware.

A man's gotta eat.

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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza - Track Day
« Reply #358 on: October 09, 2019, 02:36:01 pm »
I like that you went to a post from 2016 for the quote.
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« Reply #359 on: October 10, 2019, 08:44:13 am »
I like that you went to a post from 2016 for the quote.

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« Reply #360 on: October 10, 2019, 12:03:37 pm »
Vintage Rathburn at its finest.

Except he hasn't gotten better with age.
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« Reply #361 on: October 20, 2019, 11:42:41 am »


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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #362 on: December 23, 2019, 08:37:34 pm »
Wow, 2 years to the day since I first got the Altezza


And now


So, 69 (nice)thousand km later, one track day, quite a few auto crosses, a lot of fun road trips and adventures; so many more of it all to come.
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« Reply #363 on: August 01, 2020, 09:36:41 pm »
Been doing a lot of commuting with the tezza and some longer trips with work. It's a great car and I really love taking it everywhere. But the 6 hour drive home this morning was less than enjoyable.

Eventually the plan is to pick up something with cruise and put the tezza as more of a track oriented weekend warrior over a DD. Truck as truck.

But on my drive home, stopped here and there. 



Then started rolled up the fenders


Old vs New



Car wash (finally). Those northern mosquitoes are enormous, vicious, and numerous.


I wanted to try editing in black and white first to see if I could get the light balance right. I've been going back through pictures and finding I was bad at balancing that correctly.


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The wheels are Fast FC04 17x8+40 with Firehawks in 225/45.
Seemed like a fairly good price for weight and performance.
Second set of firehawks for me, I can kinda squeak them if I try, otherwise they hold fast. Previous set lasted me 2 auto-x, 1 track junkies, and driving 45k ish km.

Pretty much set to go to Castrol on Monday for Track Junkies.
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #364 on: August 02, 2020, 06:34:27 am »
Same wheel/tire combo as me! Just different color.
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #365 on: August 03, 2020, 08:34:07 am »
Same wheel/tire combo as me! Just different color.

It's a good combo! Gonna see how it goes on a wet track today.

Yeah.. I didn't really want Fc04s, but definitely was sold on gold.
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #366 on: August 05, 2020, 01:47:11 am »


What a track day.

My goal was to go faster than my last event, 1:41 and change. I also wanted to take it easy and work on my lines and stick under 6500rpm (only red line on hot laps). Managing my rpms was harder than I thought.

First session, great. Getting back into the swing of things and remembering how to drive. Best lap was 1:43.

Second session, rain. Started dry, started raining, came off and had stopped raining. It was nuts. Also, rain-x. I put it on the night before and so glad I did.

Third session, fine. Nothing too noteworthy. 1:42 again. Keep on practicing.

Fourth, 1:41! Huzzah! And some excitement in corner 1-2. Got a little bit of lock up.

Fifth, 1:39! I was really happy with this one. The bimmer passed me, spurred me on. Looked down and saw the time flashing towards 1:39.8 and went "oh itshay, go faster"

Yeaa... Got too excited about beating 1:40 and went into corners 1-2 way too hot.


No audio :/ dash cam reset and lost my settings, don't know when it happened.
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« Reply #367 on: August 05, 2020, 03:08:51 pm »
So, you were my spot-neighbour in the JDM Altezza! Nice to meet you online!
It was a great day, despite the torrential rain during our first session!
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« Reply #368 on: August 05, 2020, 03:28:01 pm »
So, you were my spot-neighbour in the JDM Altezza! Nice to meet you online!
It was a great day, despite the torrential rain during our first session!

Nice, you were in the black GR I assume? I was also driving, and a few other forum members where also their (Joe-G, Evo_Precision, 10secdream was spectating).
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« Reply #369 on: August 05, 2020, 03:45:34 pm »
Nice, you were in the black GR I assume? I was also driving, and a few other forum members where also their (Joe-G, Evo_Precision, 10secdream was spectating).

No, I was in the shitbox Civic on your left!  :D I am not crazy enough to take the STi to Castrol yet!

Here are a couple of clips of your car from the outside:



I think if you cleanup your lines in 1-2 and 5-6 you are going to gain a lot of exit speed where you can use it, and shave a couple of seconds of your time.
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« Reply #370 on: August 05, 2020, 04:22:36 pm »
No, I was in the shitbox Civic on your left!  :D I am not crazy enough to take the STi to Castrol yet!

Here are a couple of clips of your car from the outside:

I think if you cleanup your lines in 1-2 and 5-6 you are going to gain a lot of exit speed where you can use it, and shave a couple of seconds of your time.

clips? Like a paperclip?! Very nice haha

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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #371 on: August 05, 2020, 04:28:12 pm »
clips? Like a paperclip?! Very nice haha
Well, my racing wheel cracked, and I couldn't buy another one before the event, and couldn't find the front cover from the original steering... had to improvise some way to use the horn! :)
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #372 on: August 05, 2020, 05:14:38 pm »
No, I was in the shitbox Civic on your left!  :D I am not crazy enough to take the STi to Castrol yet!

Here are a couple of clips of your car from the outside:



I think if you cleanup your lines in 1-2 and 5-6 you are going to gain a lot of exit speed where you can use it, and shave a couple of seconds of your time.

I've 90% sure I've went for a ride along with you at autox at the Westerner or maybe even Namio base.

Thank you for the video!
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #373 on: August 05, 2020, 10:47:19 pm »
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I think if you cleanup your lines in 1-2 and 5-6 you are going to gain a lot of exit speed where you can use it, and shave a couple of seconds of your time.

So going into 5, I'm entering at 120, acceling after apex, light braking to load front left, cutting in and getting on through 6 and revving out to 3rd for turn 7.

Where do you figure I can improve here?

1 and 2 I know is a disaster. I'm hesitant about full sending it through 1 like Joe and Cole do (*especially* when they're in the Fit).

Should I be turning in there normally, or late apexing like I should be doing though 7 and 8?

Also, thank you so much for the video!
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Re: Red's Tessa - 2002 Toyota Altezza
« Reply #374 on: August 06, 2020, 02:16:11 pm »
So going into 5, I'm entering at 120, acceling after apex, light braking to load front left, cutting in and getting on through 6 and revving out to 3rd for turn 7.

Where do you figure I can improve here?

1 and 2 I know is a disaster. I'm hesitant about full sending it through 1 like Joe and Cole do (*especially* when they're in the Fit).

Should I be turning in there normally, or late apexing like I should be doing though 7 and 8?

Also, thank you so much for the video!

Having videos from outside is always good, and what I miss the most, as it is the only way to ensure I am doing what I think I am doing (...but I am hitting the apex, I am sure...)

Remember that you should ALWAYS work on three things to improve your times, in this exact order:

1- Line (is the car where it should be?)
2- Corner Exit Speed (am I maximizing the entry speed into the straight?)
3- Corner Entry Speed (am I maximizing the speed I got during the straight for as long as I can without screwing up the mid-corner - and the exit speed from said corner?)

If you look at the video and check where my car is and where your car was, you will see that our lines are "crossing" in the middle and you never reach a good positioning for corner exit.

Turn 1: you are passing miles from the apex, and finishing miles from the corner exit (that cone by the starter, on the left). it "feels" safe because you are away from all walls, but it is slow and you end up making the car turn more than it needs before/during this turn. Turn 1, despite being a "fast" turn, it is actually a pretty mild one.

Turn 2: Because you are starting from the middle of the track, it becomes much tighter than it needs to be, and will delay your ability to hit the gas earlier in the turn.

My advice here: Break before the turn in, steady gas through the turn trying to hit the apex (but not too close, there is a bump there that might upset the rear), straight line from there pointing to the exit cone, use that "straight" to break hard, or as hard as you need to make the apex on turn two, and open up the gas as soon as you are sure you will hit the apex. Adjust/adapt for your car's behaviour (on-throttle-oversteer RWD, for example)

Turn 5/6: you can't do turn 5 without thinking of turn 6... five is a compromise turn, where you have to sacrifice a bit to set you up for the best possible speed getting out of 6 (because of the long straight afterwards). The way to ensure this, is to make 6 as "straight" as possible, perfect entry, apex and exit positions. Without teleportation, you can't be at the best exit position for 5 and best entry position for 6 on the same lap: they are at the exact opposites of the track.

Best way to tackle this combo is to start turning early for 5, with a REALLY late apex (as in, the apex and the corner exit point are the same), and stay there because turn 6 is about to start. For me, because of the FWD, I usually do a quick feathering on the brakes just to load the front and get the dead-assay to swing the load from right to left and it is back on the gas up until the 100m mark for turn 7.

You are getting into 5 with a good speed, but washing out to the right at corner exit, which puts you in an awkward position to take turn 6, and completely compromises your corner exit speed on the fastest straight we have in this track.

Try these things next event: stay on the right line, even if you need to slow down to 7/10th to build up confidence in the position and attitude of the car, and then start building up exit speed. Last thing to work on is entry speed: least amount of gain for the most amount of risk.
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