Topic: Re: New BS - RaceCar? Four ring circus - 2019 Season part 2

[GrantC]

That's their local/walk-up class for "DGAF about PAX"?

[sti-tom]

Huh, I only recognize you & Colin from those results...  Funny how things change.

There was only a few of the regulars that I remembered from their previous events. We also noticed that a few trees are now missing along the fence line, including the infamous one.

[dirtyspoons]

That's their local/walk-up class for "DGAF about PAX"?

they have a local class called the AWSem class with a pax of 1.666 a few people run it. i am currently the organizer of the RDSCC championship series. it is only the second year running but it is fun.

[GrantC]

We also noticed that a few trees are now missing along the fence line, including the infamous one.

Haha, maybe it died?

[sti-tom]

Got out to another Fort Macleod AutoX this weekend. It was about the windiest I have ever been outside in. The Gusts must have been hitting 100km/h. When the course was first laid out, things started flying around right away. You were spending your time on the course walk putting cones back in place. We ended up doubling all cones including the pointers. They were still flying around. We had to give out so many re-runs due to cones falling down as cars were approaching them. It was not fun marshaling, as you had to watch everything not just where the cars were going. I just about got myself ran over, when a random cone went flying, I ran to grab it without noticing the car that had just come around the corner. Luckily I was with another marshal who yelled at me to watch out. The wind was so strong that you couldn't even hear the cars coming towards you.

It was a fairly high speed course with a few sections needing 3rd gear. On my first run I learned something about the DCT's shifting. The start was a little busy so I was late with my 1-2 shift. It didn't bounce off the limiter at all, it just upshifted on its own. Tried it again and sure enough that's the default. I tried it in second gear, but it will not auto shift to 3rd. It bounces a bit and then seems to pull some power, I need more runs to really get a handle on what its doing. I did a lot better than last time I was out here. The Civic Type R kicked some serious assay again.

Overall ranking by PAX:
Rank Car#           Class Driver           Car                               Raw Time  PAX #    PAX Time   Score
   1   88              DS Stephen H         2018 Honda Civic Typ    67.110     0.794    53.285       100.000
   2   51              FS Richard B           2011 BMW M3                67.171     0.797    53.535       99.533
   3   86              DS Chris S              2018 Honda Civic Typ     68.528     0.794    54.411       97.931
   4  112             BS Tom K                2018 Audi 5 Pot              67.469     0.808    54.515      97.744
   5   12              DS Tom G                2017 WRX                      68.995     0.794    54.782      97.268
   6  192             AS Cam W              2004 Chevrolet Corve    67.713     0.814    55.118      96.674
   7   32              SS Reijo S               2012 Porsche 911 GTS   67.838     0.817    55.424      96.142
   8   82              CAM-T Shannon W  1982 Ford Mustang        69.759     0.807    56.296      94.653
   9  539             SM Zach S               2006 Subaru WRX STi    66.259     0.853    56.519      94.279
  10   49             DS Haider M            2017 Subaru WRX          71.263     0.794    56.583      94.172
  11  718            FS Dallin B               2008 BMW M3                71.377     0.797    56.887      93.668
  12  101            SS Jacques D          2015 Chevrolet Corve     69.921     0.817    57.125      93.278
  13  151            FS Sera B                2011 BMW M3                 71.731     0.797    57.170      93.206
  14  180            DS Wayne D           2014 Scion FR-S               72.368     0.794    57.460      92.734
  15   31             ES Julie T                2003 Mazda miata           73.575     0.787    57.904      92.024
  16  202            SSP Paul T              2012 Porsche 911 Tur      68.350     0.852    58.234      91.502
  17    9              SSC Jeffrey S          2015 Subaru BRZ             72.344     0.806    58.309      91.384
  18  411            DS Doug K              2015 Subaru WRX           73.618      0.794    58.453      91.160
  19  196            SSC Derek O          2015 Subaru Brz              72.627      0.806    58.537      91.028
  20   43             SSC Jared C           2016 Scion FR-S               72.909      0.806    58.765      90.676
  21   80             DS Rogan D            2014 Scion FRS               74.197       0.794    58.912      90.448
  22  712            FS Peter P              BMW M3                          74.344       0.797    59.252      89.930
  23   95             SS David G             2004 Porsche 911           72.904       0.817    59.563      89.461
  24   21             SS Gary S               2015 Chevrolet Corve     73.259       0.817    59.853      89.028
  25  113            ES Jeff T                 2003 Mazda miata           76.737       0.787    60.392      88.232
  26  378            HS Patrick S           2009 Honda Fit                77.604       0.781    60.609      87.917
  27   92             AS Jess W              2004 Chevrolet Corve     74.569       0.814    60.699      87.786
  28    4              BSP Duane J          2006 BMW Z4M                72.067       0.846    60.969      87.398
  29  107            SS Rick B                2012 Porsche Carrera     74.940        0.817    61.226     87.031
  30   61             STR Cameron D      2003 Mazda Miata           74.994        0.823    61.720     86.334
  31  271            HS Carson D          1993 Honda Civic hat       79.492        0.781    62.083     85.829
  32   72             STU Cameron K      2008 BMW M3                 75.379        0.824    62.112      85.789
  33  999            STS Brad C             2017 BMW M2                 77.316        0.810    62.626     85.085
  34  117            ES Jim L                  MR2                                 80.208        0.787    63.124     84.414
  35   34             STU James C          2017 Ford Focus RS         76.767        0.824    63.256     84.238
  36    1              BS Miles W             Chevrolet Corvette          78.477        0.808    63.409     84.034
  37    7              EM Peter M             2008 Brunton Super 7     71.595        0.894    64.006     83.251
  38  721            FS Chris P               BMW M3                          81.126        0.797    64.657     82.412
  39    6              STR Kathleen D       2003 Mazda Miata          81.147         0.823    66.784     79.788
  40   98             FS Darcy K               1999 Jaguar XJR             86.798         0.797    69.178    77.026
  41   14             O/C Tom M               Chevrolet                       69.729         1.000    69.729     76.418
  42  793            O/C Shane L            2004 Subaru Impreza    73.957         1.000    73.957     72.049
  43  711            SS Todd Z                2013 Porsche Boxster    98.479         0.817    80.457     66.228

Next Event is this Father's Day at Castrol

[GrantC]

[10secdream]

Did the cone fall over?

[GrantC]

Yup, wasn't anywhere near the box and was on its side when all was said and done.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

Someone stole his plate!

[sti-tom]

Did the cone fall over?

I hit more cones than normal this, I'm sure it had nothing to do with the course design 
I was forced to run one over even as marshalls seemed to think the last 6 elements didn't need to be watched and there was 2 random cones laying there, with one directly in the racing line. It actually popped about a foot of rear bumper trim right right out. It seems to have gone back in place for the most part.

This ended up being my fastest clean run. I had one a little faster that timing crapped out on and also had an 84.1 with one cone on my last run.


Results haven't been posted yet, but I got this screenshot at the end.


Had my alignment done today. Went from this:


To This:


I'm not sure if this is too much Camber for the rear. I might want to add some more toe out in the rear as well. Factory settings are 0 toe or more out, they don't want any toe in, which I found quite unusual .The adjustments are pretty horrible on this thing. The only movement in the front for camber was at the top bolts for the struts, and the rear camber adjustment bolt is up high behind the spring. I won't be able to make adjustments at home that's for sure. Damn German Engineers

[Cagare]

That certainly does not allow for much adjustment on the front camber at all. It is also interesting that they want to have toe out in the rear, not a common approach. Guess they are trying to tune out understeer potentially? Too much and the balance could go pretty far off.

[GrantC]

Results haven't been posted yet, but I got this screenshot at the end.

Damn it!

[sti-tom]

That certainly does not allow for much adjustment on the front camber at all. It is also interesting that they want to have toe out in the rear, not a common approach. Guess they are trying to tune out understeer potentially? Too much and the balance could go pretty far off.

I can definitely feel the extra toe out I now have in the front. It is more darty on our crappy roads. I am really second guessing taking some of the toe out from the rear. I will see how it feels in Calgary this weekend and see If I should go add some more back. I should also bring my pyrometer down and check the rear tires to see if that is now too much camber. I doubt it will show much difference across the tire as the rears don't heat up half as fast as the fronts do.

[GrantC]

You'd had toe _in_ in the rear to begin with. Negative numbers are out, positive are in.

Your car started out with a very funky thrust angle & competing front left toe out and rear right toe in.

[sti-tom]

You'd had toe _in_ in the rear to begin with. Negative numbers are out, positive are in.

Your car started out with a very funky thrust angle & competing front left toe out and rear right toe in.

Crap, we thought + on the machine was toe out and - was toe in. My rear is probably good then and I should get the front back to zero or a slight bit of toe out. I guess I will have to double check at home tonight with my toe plates. At least the front toe is easy to adjust on my own.

My left toe out was when I loosened the lower ball joint on just the driver's side to try and pull it out to the edge of the holes. Evidently it worked a bit. It should have been fine from the dealer. The rear inconsistencies was definitely their fault though.

[sti-tom]

So I finished up 2018 driving an ND Miata in Packwood and my first Nationals in Lincoln. They were both very disappointing finishes to say the least. I learned that I don't enjoy drive low powered very much and commited to driver the Audi for the whole 2019 season. I changed my number to get later start positions at the US events. People from Edmonton should see where I went with it.

I added some new Neuspeed endlinks to go with my H&R rear swaybar I installed last year.
Results from early autoXs:
2019-05-11 Airdrie SASC#1
5th in Pax out of 60
2019-05-26 RDSCC#2
1st in PAX out of 32
2019-06-02 ASA#1
1st in PAX out of 22
2019-06-16 ASA#1
1st in PAX out of 27 - This is where my old tires died.

To be continued

[sti-tom]

The previous 2 events on my old 265/35R18 Front and 235/40R18 Rear felt horrible. I was starting to dislike the car and started looking at new options for racing with next season (ie: Mustang GT, 370Z etc). I was set on still giving it a chance with a new bigger set of tires. I picked up a set of 275/35R18 for the front and 245/40R18 for the rear. They give a bit more width plus some extra height which will help with the low gearing and pathetic 55mph 2nd gear.

Airdrie was the first event on the new tires. They felt good, but my results were pretty disappointing.
2019-07-06
8th in Pax out of 56

About this time I was reading some discussions about what pressures to run on street class cars. I was always trying to minimize my outer edge wear because I am always driving camber challenged cars. I was running close to 43psi in the fronts. Stephen Hui from Calgary was saying that he never thinks about the wear, but just what is fastest. The next event was down in Packwood and I tried dropping pressures to 39 PSI. Lo and Behold the car felt a lot better and was noticeably faster.



I ended up snagging the last trophy spot ahead of a couple people I did not think I had a chance of beating.



The next weekend we were back at it again at the Packwood Pro. This was the first time I ever used the launch control. It is pretty sweet, I was getting consistent 1.8 & 1.9 60 foot times. I ended up just losing out on 2nd place by 0.036 to my buddy from Calgary. I coned both my runs on the right side course on Sunday. If my faster one was clean I would have taken first place by a hair. If the slower one was clean I would have easily taken 2nd. This pace really has my pumped to go again next year.



On our way back home from Packwood we made a stop in Fort Macleod for the Canadian Nationals. The turnout was low compared to normal but most of the best Alberta drivers showed up. Day one was windy as hell and we ended up cancelling the afternoon runs as cones were getting blown all over the place. Day 2 was a lot nicer weather and we were able to do both morning and afternoon runs. I was running much better than I normally do on this airstrip.



Overall ranking by PAX:
Rank     Car#       Class Driver           Car                            Raw Time  PAX #  PAX Time   Score
   1       51          FS Richard B        2011 BMW M3                165.333  0.803   132.762 100.000
   2       97          BS Tom K            2018 Audi 5 Pot              166.452  0.810   134.826  98.469
   3       12          BS Tom G            2017 Chevy Camaro SS  166.577  0.810   134.927  98.395
   4      168       CAM-T Brock M      1968 Chevrolet Camar    166.220  0.812   134.971  98.364
   5       18          FS Dallin B           2008 BMW M3                 168.731  0.803   135.491  97.986
   6       92          AS Cam W           2004 Chevrolet Corve    165.924  0.817   135.560  97.936
   7       82       CAM-T Shannon      1982 Ford Mustang       167.104  0.812   135.688  97.844
   8        5          CS Murray P          2017 Mazda MX-5         169.281  0.809   136.948  96.943
   9       96         SSC Derek O          2015 Subaru Brz         171.950  0.801   137.732  96.392
  10       43         SSC Jared C          2016 Scion FR-S          172.266  0.801   137.985  96.215
  11        9         STS Steffan A        1989 Mazda Miata        172.368  0.811   139.790  94.972
  12       10          CS Adam S           2007 Honda S2000     173.670  0.809   140.499  94.493
  13       80          DS Rogan D          2014 Scion FRS          176.147  0.800   140.918  94.213
  14       19         STS Eric E           1989 Mazda Miata        174.443  0.811   141.473  93.843
  15      151          FS Sera B           2011 BMW M3             176.293  0.803   141.563  93.783
  16      177          DP Reijo S          1992 Mazda miata       165.072  0.858   141.632  93.738
  17      202          BS Paul T           2006 Porsche Cayman  174.869  0.810   141.644  93.730
  18      180          DS Wayne D       2014 Scion FR-S           177.488  0.800   141.990  93.501
  19       91          SS Doug C           2017 Chevrolet Corve   174.986  0.821   143.664  92.412
  20       14       CAM-S TOM M          CHEVY CORVETTE        172.640  0.833   143.809  92.318
  21       36          BS Brian A          2017 BMW M2             177.808  0.810   144.024  92.180
  22      210         STU Eric K           2005 Nissan 350Z        174.279  0.828   144.303  92.003
  23       59         STX Andrew P      1989 Nissan 240SX       178.560  0.815   145.526  91.229
  24      117          ES Jim L            1991 Toyota MR2 N/A     184.949  0.789   145.925  90.980
  25      116          GS Greg M         2009 Volkswagen GTI   185.233  0.788   145.964  90.956
  26       93          SM Shane L        2004 Subaru WRX STi   170.840  0.855   146.068  90.891
  27      136          BS Yvonne A       2017 BMW M2             180.925  0.810   146.549  90.592
  28       21          SS Gary S           2015 Chevrolet Corve    178.514  0.821   146.560  90.586
  29      417          DS Doug K           2015 Subaru WRX         183.441  0.800   146.753  90.467
  30       89         STS Greg J           1991 Mazda RX-7           181.018  0.811   146.806  90.434
  31       65       CAM-C Derrick K     2016 Ford Shelby GT3   180.166  0.820   147.736  89.865
  32       39          DM Alan R           1991 Caterham Super     165.266  0.895   147.913  89.757
  33        8          XP James C          2002 Chevrolet Corve    167.804  0.885   148.507  89.398
  34       77          DP Dave W          1992 Mazda miata        173.574  0.858   148.926  89.146
  35       17          HS Nick K           2018 Honda Civic           191.364  0.780   149.264  88.945
  36        7          EM Peter M          2008 Brunton Super 7    167.669  0.894   149.896  88.570
  37       68          CP Steve M          1996 Ford Mustang GT   177.376  0.848   150.415  88.264
  38       11         ASP Mikael S         2016 Ford Focus           179.317  0.850   152.419  87.103
  39       69          EM Bill R               1984 Lotus 7                174.444  0.894   155.953  85.130
  40        1          SS Miles W          Chevrolet Corvette G    192.244  0.821   157.832  84.116
  41      105          CS Jo P              2017 Mazda MX-5         199.371  0.809   161.291  82.312
  42      242          SM Craig C          1981 Volvo 242 GLT      189.206  0.855   161.771  82.068
  43       27          SM Gabriel N        2007 Subaru WRX Wago  189.295  0.855   161.847  82.029
  44       22         STU Willard D        2005 Subaru STi             DNS  0.828       DNS   0.000
  45      711          BS Ben Y            2018 Ford Focus RS          DNS  0.810       DNS   0.000
  46      403         SSM Alex R           1986 Chevrolet corve      DNS  0.875       DNS   0.000

Here is a shot of the top 3 cars



After Nationals I was at 35 runs and my tires need to be flipped already. I don't think they will make it to 70. I took my car out to Track Junkies on the Aug 5th holiday Monday. I wanted to see how it compared to my STi. The best I managed in it was a 131.7. My fast timed session I managed a 131.5, so a slight improvement, but it was a busy lap with some traffic issues. My next session was a nightmare as all the slow cars went out first and clogged everything up. I talked to the guy that releases the cars and got him a copy of the times so he could send us out in order for the next session. This time it worked like it should and I was able to get a decent clean run in. To my surprise I had skipped the 130s altogether and did a 129.85. I was very pleased with that, and thought I would try one my run in the last session of the day. I still had a 1/4 tank of gas. I came out of the turn 3 (the bowl) and got some nasty fuel cut, just like the STi used too. At least I know now how low I can go running at Castrol now.

 I have a new set of tires going on in a couple weeks in preparation for my second trip out to Lincoln for the US nationals. I know my car will be badly outgunned, but I still think there is a small chance I can sneak a trophy out of there. Some wet conditions could help with that, and Lincoln is notorious for changing conditions.

[SlowLGT]

I thought the Audi at the TJ event looked familiar but didn't clue in it was yours! Sub 1:30 is awesome. Where did that place in the TA run group that day?

[sti-tom]

I thought the Audi at the TJ event looked familiar but didn't clue in it was yours! Sub 1:30 is awesome. Where did that place in the TA run group that day?

I ended up 3rd behind Colin & Orrin, both on slicks running 1:27.xxx. I was pretty impressed, it could be possible to get into the high 1:28s as is, and probably down into the 1:26s with coilovers, camber plates and a ECU & TCU tune. Not something I would consider till at least after the warranty is up.

[10secdream]

What was your best lap in the GTR?

[A.J.]

Just going to put this here for you got it last week. Loving it so far.

[sti-tom]

What was your best lap in the GTR?

This was my one time on Hoosiers A6's. They were 2 years old and corded the next time I tried to use them.

[sti-tom]

Just going to put this here for you got it last week. Loving it so far.

Nice! we will have to meet up sometime. Let me know if you decide on an exhaust to go with. I just ordered these today.

https://vwpartsinternational.com/shop/electrical-engine-parts/audi-s3-8v-exhaust-valve-terminator-delete-removal-fault-code-off-wire-connector-new-parts/