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2020 Toyota Supra
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:37:53 AM »
Guessing the video might get taken down because the official release is next week.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 11:02:48 AM »
It looks like a Z4.

Find any specs?

Edit: Toyota confirmed the Supra will launch with a straight-six engine borrowed from the BMW parts bin. The turbocharged, 3.0-liter unit is expected to make about 335 horsepower and 332 pound-feet of torque in its most basic state of tune. Rear-wheel drive will be the only configuration offered, though transmission options remain unconfirmed. Some rumors claim the model will be automatic-only, while others assert a six-speed manual transmission will be offered in some markets.

Well no wonder it looks like a Z4.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 11:06:21 AM »
Could have as much as 380hp like the M240i.

Also going to have a 2.0l variant as well. Autotragic is the only gearbox. I am still impressed by the 3200lb curb weight 50/50 weight distribution and lower CofG than the FRS
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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 11:26:04 AM »
It looks like a Z4.

Find any specs?

Edit: Toyota confirmed the Supra will launch with a straight-six engine borrowed from the BMW parts bin. The turbocharged, 3.0-liter unit is expected to make about 335 horsepower and 332 pound-feet of torque in its most basic state of tune. Rear-wheel drive will be the only configuration offered, though transmission options remain unconfirmed. Some rumors claim the model will be automatic-only, while others assert a six-speed manual transmission will be offered in some markets.

Well no wonder it looks like a Z4.

Yeah I thought you were trying to make a Joke, BMW and Toyota worked on both cars together to a certain point then separated.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 11:38:54 AM »
"This will decimate all"

Gotta admit, I kinda want one.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 12:04:03 PM »
"This will decimate all"

Gotta admit, I kinda want one.

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I wish it had a powerful Toyota motor but meh. Looks good.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 12:23:55 PM »
When it needs warranty work, do you go to BMW for engine stuff and go to Toyota for the rest of the car?

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 12:29:04 PM »
Ew, it looks like a BMW after a sex change and a face lift, but it didn't have enough money to buy an assay too.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 12:42:31 PM »
So torn. Glad to see there's a new Supra, but the BMW engine takes away from it. I'm sure it's nice, but I'd be worried about reliability. It'll be nothing like what the 2JZ is/was. I don't think it'll get the kind of love the last gen did.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 12:47:11 PM »
Ew, it looks like a BMW after a sex change and a face lift, but it didn't have enough money to buy an assay too.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 02:43:19 PM »
inb4 $68k price point
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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 02:48:17 PM »
inb4 $68k price point

Lol, I doubt it is that cheap.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 02:51:45 PM »
inb4 $68k price point

I wouldn’t be surprised, in 1994 a Supra turbo adjusted for inflation was $63k USD

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 02:58:39 PM »
I am guessing a 50k usd starting price.
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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 03:11:09 PM »
I wish it had a powerful Toyota motor but meh.

Me too.  A great deal of what made the Supra was it's motor.  So, to say, "we need another Supra story..." and skip the engine feels a bit short changed. 
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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2019, 03:21:19 PM »
A great deal of what made the Supra was it's motor.  So, to say, "we need another Supra story..." and skip the engine feels a bit short changed.

I truly believe this will be a big flop, I could be wrong, but I feel toyota (more than they want to admit) just rebadged the Z4 imo and stuck the Supra name on it. I dunno, something is missing for me. As you say without that engine it is a little sad, 2jz is really what made that car great. They will get the fanboy and hype sales then it will die off in a few years is my guess.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 03:33:45 PM »
Wait... Doesn't this come with a variant of BMW B58? I thought that was considered a very stout engine and responds very well to tuning.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2019, 03:58:06 PM »
I am guessing a 50k usd starting price.

This is probably more realistic.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2019, 04:00:57 PM »
Wait... Doesn't this come with a variant of BMW B58? I thought that was considered a very stout engine and responds very well to tuning.

The little I have read seems to agree with this comment up to a point. Though if the rawness of the 2jz and unlimited tuning potential is what you are after, then no (however what modern engines have this with all the emissions, reliability and driving manners issues?). I guess you can never truly repeat a legendary act that the 2jz was/is.

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2019, 04:37:50 PM »
Wait... Doesn't this come with a variant of BMW B58? I thought that was considered a very stout engine and responds very well to tuning.

I don’t think it’s the B58. My dad has that engine in his car though and it’s very nice. On average the BMWs my parents have owned have been extremely reliable and cheap to run.
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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2019, 04:57:27 PM »
The little I have read seems to agree with this comment up to a point. Though if the rawness of the 2jz and unlimited tuning potential is what you are after, then no (however what modern engines have this with all the emissions, reliability and driving manners issues?). I guess you can never truly repeat a legendary act that the 2jz was/is.

I will admit I do not know much about the legendary 2JZ. BMW N54 can push 800whp on stock bottom end, is it significantly less than a stock 2JZ?

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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2019, 05:00:32 PM »
This car is some what apealing for a Toyota sports car. However, I don't like the idea of resurrecting one of the most iconic JDM vehicles by release what seams to be a Z4 with a Supra badge.


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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2019, 05:35:44 PM »
it makes sense, bmw is making straight 6s pretty nicely. For toyota to dump a ton of money into R&D to make something thats hopefully just as good or maybe a tiny bit better than something thats already on the market doesnt make loads of sense, except that then i could try to stick it in an FRS.
What they should do as part of the release is start producing and selling new crate 2JZ and 1JZ engines.

I will admit I do not know much about the legendary 2JZ. BMW N54 can push 800whp on stock bottom end, is it significantly less than a stock 2JZ?

Isnt it considered unsafe that high? To my knowledge most people stick to the 5-600 hp range with beemers.
I mean same with the 2JZ GTE more or less... Lots of people do 800hp with stock heads and bottom end, but the weakness is the cast pistons from what I understand. Couple spark knocks and you might split one in half.
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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2019, 06:33:38 PM »
Looks great, wish I could rationalize one.
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Re: 2020 Toyota Supra
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2019, 09:16:23 AM »
I wish it had a powerful Toyota Yamaha motor but meh. Looks good.
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