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"Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?

Deerfoot
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The Deerfoot
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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2018, 09:01:45 PM »
I had no problems driving when i wasn't standing still in gridlock traffic

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2018, 08:32:16 PM »
I had no problems driving when i wasn't standing still in gridlock traffic

You were saying the company that clears Deerfoot went bankrupt? Got any more deets?
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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2018, 09:14:58 PM »
I think this is what he is referring to: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-contingency-plan-carillion-1.4490289

That being said I think it may end up being another company that has the contract within the city.

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #78 on: February 05, 2018, 01:41:51 AM »
I think this is what he is referring to: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-contingency-plan-carillion-1.4490289

That being said I think it may end up being another company that has the contract within the city.

Thanks.  I was wondering about that; being a provincial highway, do the city contractors clear it or the province? 
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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #79 on: February 05, 2018, 07:02:41 AM »
I can confirm, at least between Seton and Memorial going northbound, that the Deerfoot has been more or less cleared of snow.
and I can also confirm that it's icy as uckfay.
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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #80 on: February 05, 2018, 10:39:18 PM »
Thanks.  I was wondering about that; being a provincial highway, do the city contractors clear it or the province?
Carmacks handles Deerfoot/Stoney and I think they subcon to smaller fish like the aforementioned Carillion.

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2018, 09:11:05 AM »
I feel this is going to get closer & closer to 50/50...
This is old I know, but I was browsing and the results now are completely not 50-50 lol

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #82 on: June 09, 2018, 12:04:39 PM »
I'm glad this thread I randomly created at a tims meet is still relevant :)

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #83 on: July 20, 2018, 10:14:43 AM »
https://falconediting.com/en/blog/the-proper-use-of-articles-in-english-writing

English grammar is pretty haphazard in its application of rules, but we evolved to have a generally pretty good intuitive knowledge of the grammar of our native language. Sometimes it gets messy though and this is a great example of that.

If we looked at other roads that could not be interpreted are "noncount" nouns, such as Crowchild Trail and McLeod Trail, would it intuitively seem correct to say "The Crowchild" or "The McLeod"? I don't think so.

So what is it about Deerfoot that is different? I think its the name itself. What is a Deerfoot? Well, a Deer Foot. Can you count feet? Yes.

This is just my guess. Its been 10 years since I've taken linguistics.

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #84 on: July 20, 2018, 10:17:04 AM »
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I mentioned it already, but holy crap!  Captain Bucky O'Hare!

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #85 on: July 20, 2018, 10:59:28 AM »
https://falconediting.com/en/blog/the-proper-use-of-articles-in-english-writing

English grammar is pretty haphazard in its application of rules, but we evolved to have a generally pretty good intuitive knowledge of the grammar of our native language. Sometimes it gets messy though and this is a great example of that.

If we looked at other roads that could not be interpreted are "noncount" nouns, such as Crowchild Trail and McLeod Trail, would it intuitively seem correct to say "The Crowchild" or "The McLeod"? I don't think so.

So what is it about Deerfoot that is different? I think its the name itself. What is a Deerfoot? Well, a Deer Foot. Can you count feet? Yes.

This is just my guess. Its been 10 years since I've taken linguistics.

Both Deerfoot and Crowchild are named after real people.

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #86 on: July 20, 2018, 11:39:05 AM »
Both Deerfoot and Crowchild are named after real people.

Totally, but grammatically they wouldn't register to someone the same if they didn't know that.

To someone with no knowledge of First Nations history, Crowchild is much more ambiguous than Deerfoot.

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #87 on: July 20, 2018, 11:39:33 AM »
I mentioned it already, but holy crap!  Captain Bucky O'Hare!

Anything you say...  I can't stop looking.



It was the 2nd best part of my childhood really...

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #88 on: July 20, 2018, 01:05:44 PM »
It was the 2nd best part of my childhood really...

Was Hannah Dundee the best part?

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #89 on: July 20, 2018, 01:10:07 PM »
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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #90 on: July 20, 2018, 01:47:27 PM »
Was Hannah Dundee the best part?



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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #91 on: August 30, 2018, 02:33:14 PM »
It just occurred to me that Home Depot is, The Home Depot.  But anyone who says, "I'm going to The Home Depot," should be dragged onto the street and shot. 
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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #92 on: August 30, 2018, 03:47:20 PM »
Somebody calling something what it is by its actual name is generally uncool

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #93 on: August 31, 2018, 11:14:49 AM »
I've said it before, I think its contextual. If I was giving someone directions to my place I would say "Hop on the the Deerfoot", but if I was on the Deerfoot and talking to someone about where I was at the time, I would say "I'm driving on Deerfoot right now".


Mind you, at the same time, every highway I'm used to back in Ontario, everyone calls them "the _____". The 401, The Gardiner, The DVP (Don Valley Parkway), The 403, The 427, The 407. You'd only refer to city roads as their standard name, ie Kipling, Younge, Eglington, Dundas, etc, except for one road that's actual name is "The Allan Expressway", which everyone calls "The Allan".

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #94 on: August 31, 2018, 12:27:47 PM »

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #95 on: August 31, 2018, 12:55:49 PM »


lol, I haven't laughed like this in a while
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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #96 on: August 31, 2018, 01:47:33 PM »
It's contextual, and I guess, like all language, evolves... I feel like the context of it was changed in recent years by the news/social media.

Growing up it was always just "Deerfoot". Then some broadcaster came along and called it "The Deerfoot" and a bunch of panty waists
who dislike driving on this thoroughfare decided to adopt this moniker.

Allowing it to ascend into having some hallowed thing making it "omg you took THE Deerfoot in this snowstorm!? YOU MUST BE A MANIAC!"

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Re: "Deerfoot", or "The Deerfoot"?
« Reply #97 on: September 01, 2018, 08:57:45 AM »
Somebody calling something what it is by its actual name is generally uncool

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