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« on: April 20, 2018, 08:03:12 am »
Once again, a new summer rally is upon us. Since this is technically my buddy's bachelor party, we wanted to travel in comfort. That means the furious grumbling and vibrations of my little '92 Civic didn't quite cut it, so it is relegated to the sidelines for yet another year of the rally.

So what did we get instead? This 2004 Acura TSX:



For those of you who are unfamiliar, the Acura TSX is a European Accord. Inexplicably, despite Europeans being poorer-by-capita than North Americans, they usually get the nice stuff so that they can admire the one person in their squalid village who can afford parking.



As such, this fine beast has a 6-speed manual transmission and air conditioning. It also has some other stuff that we haven't had before on the rally, like a working sunroof, airbags and an alignment.

The body, she is not so good.









According to the PO, the PPO was backed into by a truck. Why is the damage so high up on the body? Because it used to be slammed, which explains all the wheel well rust.











Fixable. It drives nice and the interior is good, which is all that really matters.







It smells not so great, though. When we got it, it had like six "little tree" air fresheners, which is always a sign that something worse is wrong. It looks like someone spilled gear oil or shock oil in the trunk, which I have experience removing.

The PPO (or someone along those lines, this car has had at least five other owners) also installed a toggle switch in the centre console that appears to do nothing, hardwired an old-iPod interface, and left some sub wiring dangling around. These things could be related.

Let's move on from the inside and look at this ittshay Injen aftermarket intake that was installed by someone. It also has some weird wiring poorly tucked in the engine bay which I initially thought was HIDs, but the car should have factory HIDs since it has projectors. There's a loose relay holder that was crappily electrical-taped to one strut tower.



Things to do:
  • New lug nuts because the tuner lugs that are on this thing are rusty
  • Wire wheel off the rust, bondo it and spray bomb it. It's a 286,000 km car, it doesn't deserve patch panels.
  • Figure out what's going on with all that wiring.
  • Reportedly, it has fifth-gear pop out. Since the PO expressed very loudly to us that he did a "transmission flush," I think the best thing here is to immediately change out the fluid for the proper Honda fluid because I bet there's some crazy itshay in here. Hopefully it's not the shift fork; 6th gear doesn't pop out.
  • Give the body a serious going-over to see if it's missing any bolts, clips, etc. There is some kind of rattle from the front end, and I noticed a missing fender bolt on the passenger side when we test drove it.

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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2018, 09:03:28 am »
OH MAN!  These cars have a special place in my heart as I had one for two years! Did things like intake, headers suspension... And was about to sink money into a Jackson supercharger until my friend convinced me to buy a Subaru.

These cars are so rarely taken care of, it kills me. They're such nice vehicles.

And yours is red!

I had to laugh when said the intake is crap. I was so proud of my Injen intake noise.  I'd probably do it again lol

I still think the gearbox is one of the best I've driven. Only one better is Jory's S2k. I might actually have some shifter bushings in a box if you want them.
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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2018, 09:04:29 am »
I might actually have some shifter bushings in a box if you want them.
I absolutely want them. Got any other parts?

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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 09:08:43 am »
I'll have a looksie. I have a pretty good idea in my mind's eye where I stored them. But we've moved twice since I sold the car...

I think anything else I might have are stock parts, which you still might want.
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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2018, 09:10:02 am »
Any rust on the bottom of the door jams?
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2018, 09:10:10 am »
I'll have a looksie. I have a pretty good idea in my mind's eye where I stored them. But we've moved twice since I sold the car...

I think anything else I might have are stock parts, which you still might want.
In the general case: if there are parts, I want them. I can pop over and grab them whenever or send my buddy since he works in the 'drie.

Any rust on the bottom of the door jams?
On the jambs, no, but the rear driver side door is pretty rusty at the corner there.

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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 09:35:07 am »
OH MAN!  These cars have a special place in my heart as I had one for two years!

Why is it like this? I had my EG for 2 years, and I would kill to own another and do all the mods over again. But if someone offered me another GD STi I would balk at it, even though I had mine for close to 8 years. I mean, if it was an 06, I'd still say yes.

Maybe I didn't own it long enough to learn to hate it.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 10:27:46 am »
Maybe I didn't own it long enough to learn to hate it.

Or long enough to prank all your friends into believing you sold it and that the new owner was ruining it with ittshay mods.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 10:33:08 am »
Or long enough to prank all your friends into believing you sold it and that the new owner was ruining it with ittshay mods.

Maybe I can say I inspired him?
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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2018, 08:02:14 pm »
Today we did a 600-ish km round-trip to Coaldale to pick up some wheels. The wheels turned out to be crap (more on this later if we can't get it sorted out), but this car drives so damn nice. Tons of passing power.

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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2018, 11:02:28 pm »
I did find the bushings, but the only other thing is a TB gasket :(

They're all yours!
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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2018, 10:31:55 am »
it should be a lot more comfortable this year compared to your past cars :D

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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2018, 10:43:09 am »
I did find the bushings, but the only other thing is a TB gasket :(

They're all yours!
Is the fuel filter a huge itchbay on this thing?

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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2018, 11:28:05 am »
I never changed the fueling components on mine so I don't know. :(

TB for throttle body, just to clarify. I was going to have my TB and Intake Manifold bored out, but gave up and bought the turbo car.
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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2018, 01:39:37 pm »
Aaaaaaand it's broken.

My codriver was starting after braking for a school bus, went to grab a gear (2nd or 3rd?), and the tires locked up and the engine stalled when he let the clutch out. Now it feels like it is stuck in gear; if you let the clutch out in neutral, it stalls.

Selecting any gear doesn't seem to actually change anything, even from the linkage on top of the trans under the hood.

Clutch and clutch friends seem good.

I jacked it up and the front wheels spin when you let the clutch out. Can't seem to drive on it, though, if I let the clutch out slowly on the ground in 'gear' all it seems to do is burn the clutch and try to stall the engine, like trying to start in a super high gear.

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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2018, 02:02:43 pm »
This is why you don't brake for school buses
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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2018, 02:27:54 pm »
stuck in reverse?
stuck in 4th? measure the ol rpms and see what rough roadspeed its moving at with wheels jacked up.
Could be some tranny issue though where under load its slipping into another gear or engaging two at once.
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2018, 02:28:57 pm »
stuck in reverse?
Stupidly, I didn't actually note which way the wheels were spinning.

stuck in 4th? measure the ol rpms and see what rough roadspeed its moving at with wheels jacked up.
Looked like 20ish km/h from the speedo. Revs were pretty low, but I should've noted that too.

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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 09:50:16 pm »
Managed to wrangle it onto the lift using a combination of come-alongs and power cursing. Put it up on the jacks and ran it again to get some more evidence.









  • In neutral: Tires appear to spin forward. Kinda feels like 1st or 2nd gear. Faint grinding sound. 30-ish kph on the speedo.
  • 1st gear: Stalls instantly and hard when the clutch is let out.

Not good. Unhappy.

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2018, 08:47:13 am »
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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2018, 09:14:14 am »
oh geez. Junkyard trans pull time. 30ish at idle on the speedo sounds like 4th to me. The 1:1 gear.
probably binding on that and first when in first.
any gear it doesnt stall in?
Not that it matters, it needs a new trans.
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2018, 09:19:49 am »
I'll give you $100 for the car.
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2018, 09:20:52 am »

Clutch and clutch friends seem good.


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Re: Cloud Honda
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2018, 11:11:58 am »
Do you think it's internal or external? How accessible is the shifter linkage and cable from the shifter to the top of the trans?

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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2018, 11:16:44 am »
Do you think it's internal or external? How accessible is the shifter linkage and cable from the shifter to the top of the trans?
Unfortunately, I think the problem is internal. I can get both hands on the shifter linkage and swing it around on top of the trans no problem.

Under the hood, I can move the shifter into 1, 2, 3 by playing the lift and shove game. When I try to put it into where 4th should be, it only moves halfway and doesn't make a satisfying slotting sound like it did on the other three gears. This is consistent with how the shifter inside the car acts; I can't move it all the way into fourth.

I am pretty sure it's jammed in 4th and when I try to put it into 1st up on stands, it is trying to engage two gears simultaneously and stalls.

I'm gonna try to pull the shifter linkage off the top of the trans and see if there's anything in the little 'hole' for the turret that I can see before starting to pull the trans. The cheapest quote I have so far for a used box is $750, which sucks, so I'll probably find someone to rebuild it or dismantle it myself.





As you can see, the parts fiche diagrams (as well as the FSM) are sort of unclear on what's going on under the turret.

If it is the turret itself that's jammed, maybe I can fix it outside of the car. If it's a cracked shift fork that's dropped or otherwise gotten stuck between gears, maybe I can pry bar it back into position. Not feeling hopeful though.