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The Rope Wagon (all wired up)
« on: December 06, 2015, 12:59:16 pm »
My brother-in-law (BIL) bought himself a partially fitted out camper van. So why am I making a build thread about it? Because I'm spending nearly every spare minute of my time fixing it and making it safe. I've shed a lot of blood, sweat and in this van.

Why "Rope Wagon"? Well, blame that sick astardbay Rathburn for the name. BIL is a climber and Rathburn thought it would be funny to own a van with the number plate "RP WGN". Rope wagon was born. BIL is Venezuelan and English is his second language so I had to do some detailed explaining. He was (eventually) amused.





Doesn't fit into my garage so all tasks need to be achieved in the cold:


Interior view from the side doors:


Shaky shot of the rear inside section:


Same view from the driver's cabin:


Cleaned up the under-bed construction disaster zone as best we could. Left the extra rails on the bed and also added a lug to hold the bed in place during transit and possible heavy braking:


Front inside section (door closed). There's a garbage bag hanging off a piece of ornamental drift wood. The wood is lumpy and the first thing I said was "someone is going to lose an eye...". Sure enough, I was the first to get a lug in the eye socket. Didn't lose an eye but stubbed my toe... We're still in the process of removing them as we catch ourselves on them. This one has survived:


Front inside section (door open):


Rear view:


Slow reclamation of the storage area under the bed:


Awkward photos of solar panels:






Details:
It's a 2005 Chevy Express 3500 (high top), a former City of Calgary work horse and when it was decommissioned they cut their installed wires left, right and centre. It has not one, but TWO, yellow top Optima batteries. One of which was loosely/uselessly mounted under the frame with a completely corroded fuse. It also has lots of exterior lighting for those campsite rave parties, along with some flashing amber emergency LED's front and rear... which will likely freak people the uckfay out when they're lit up at night driving on the highway. The previous owner was a "dope" stoner and while he may have been skilled at finishing the interior with a joint, wood and a pin stapler he was completely uckfaying useless at any interior structural design and planning. PO also had a bike rack installed on a rear door and the resultant load flexing on the rear window shattered the glass so he repaired it with fibreglass sheets. motheruckfayer. We're still carefully sanding and polishing out the resin off the paint. Cosmetics are not our highest priority so this is now on hold... as is the rust repair here and there.

Don't let me catch any of you doing this to a car:


The thumping great V8 needed new plugs and wires and we replaced one O2 sensor and some IACV thingy to make all the check engine codes go away. Jackie Tong did a brake fluid flush so the pedal no longer sinks to the floor. We hooked up the second battery with a less corroded terminal and now she starts first kick.

Already installed by City of Calgary:
- block heater, along with a short extension lead in the engine bay, connected to:
- AC cables from the engine bay to: they just uckfaying stop, cut under the carriage. We could have hurt ourselves pretty badly if we plugged in the block heater and these AC lines were arcing on the chassis.
- miles of unknown source/destination DC cables, also cut under the carriage.
- flood light on every side (Front, Rear, Left, Right)
- flashing amber lights on front and rear bumpers
- reverse alarm. We killed that bloody thing real quick.
- aluminum isolation panel between driver's cabin and rear cabin.

Already installed by PO:
- a really uckfaying heavy bed with a sheet stapled down to no less than 3 sheets of 3/8" plywood and multiple slider rails. The bed is formed in two pieces so it becomes rather large bench seat when not in use. It spans across the rear of the vehicle and eats up abut 50% of the floor space. It's uckfaying ridiculous but it's going to be major re-work to modify it right now so we're going to push ahead with the current design.
- solar panels, solar controller, 6V deep cycle batteries and a 1000W inverter.
- AC powered LED TV
- AC powered Bose speakers
- AC powered ceiling lights
- a myriad of various core DC cables, some useful but most not.
- a couple of loose AC cables
- tonnes, okay, I'm exaggerating, hundreds of kilograms of useless wood framing and paneling.
- a uckfaying hardwood floor.
- a mix of spray foam and fibre wool insulation. Poorly and randomly applied, leaving lots of gaps to fill and repair. He also installed a 1/8" sheet of ply on the aluminum panel between the driver's cabin and the rear cabin and couldn't work out why it was so cold so he bought a furnace which he never got around to installing.
- a permanent rear wall separating the cabin from the rear doors. The space under the bed was also permanently boxed out, leaving no room for random sized containers; being 2' high x 1' wide slots accessible only from the inside of the vehicle (these are 5' deep and thus impossible to reach the end if you're larger than 05LGT).
- batteries and solar controller were permanently framed inside the under-bed boxes with no room to inspect or refill electrolyte level, nor monitor charging/current levels. More on this later.

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Re: The Rope Wagon
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2015, 12:59:26 pm »
Progress Index

06-Dec-2015 (clicky)
- removed lots of excess wood
- moved the deep cycle batteries into a decent box, complete with vent
- modified under-bed framing to fit storage boxes
- built a propane bottle storage box
- began install of propane hose, tube and fittings
- installed propane furnace, c/w exhaust vent
- cleaned up rear door shelving
- insulated driver cabin partition/wall
- insulated/partially panelled side door step

07-Dec-2015 (clicky)
- cleaned up some cabling at the side and rear of the van
- started battery box install

08-Dec-2015 (clicky)
- installed propane piping
- had another attempt at the battery box install

11-Dec-2015 (clicky)
- designed and installed DC electrical system
- re-connected solar system
- had another attempt at the battery box install
- black vinyl'd the rear window (thanks Betacuts)
- tested the furnace

13-Dec-2015 (clicky)
- installed furnace thermostat
- starting the 120V system wiring
- found a gas leak

18-Dec-2015 (clicky)
- installed insulation and plywood panelling in the overhead (of driver's cabin) compartment
- finished off insulating the side step and bought a door snake
- attempted to draft tape the cabin door
- started planning the converta-table/bed design

28-Dec-2015 (clicky)
- installed AC automatic transfer switch
- installed breaker panel
- began to install the battery box vent
- installed new (chassis) ground cable into the electrical cabinet
- began to install receptacles

01-Jan-2016 (clicky)
- finished installing receptacles
- added a ground cable between body shell and subframe
- finished the AC wiring
- finally cut the battery vent hole and installed the vent hose

04-Jan-2016 (clicky)
- installed that shiny lug nut
- installed interior DC lighting
- installed 12VDC USB charge ports


To do list:
- black vinyl the side window next to the electrical panel (maybe not)
- leak test gas piping (again)
- install 125A fuse on spare battery
- fab up removable insulation panels for single pane windows
- re-install cabinet doors
- install one shiny lug nut, paint it black (LOL)
- electrical:
     - install DC lighting in overhead compartment
     - install DC lighting in rear section
- relocate spare battery inside the cabin
- hook up the deep cycle batteries to the van alternator
- seal the side step wood panels against moisture ingress

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Re: The Rope Wagon
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2015, 01:06:17 pm »
What the uckfay is a Rope Wagon?
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Re: The Rope Wagon
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2015, 01:08:25 pm »
What the uckfay is a Rope Wagon?

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So far this "Project Thread" just raises more questions than answers...

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Re: The Rope Wagon
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2015, 04:26:13 pm »
I'm still editing post 2, but we're now unlocked for comment

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2015, 04:50:06 pm »
The Tuna is such a helpful guy. Atta boy, Tuna.

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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2015, 05:53:58 pm »
Interesting project. Hopefully he is paying you for your time too but at least you are keeping busy.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2015, 06:45:59 pm »
Interesting project. Hopefully he is paying you for your time too but at least you are keeping busy.

Doubt it. At best, he's earning good will with his wife. Interesting project, I'd be interested in seeing it.
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Re: The Rope Wagon
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2015, 07:02:04 pm »
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I saw Rope Wagon and thought "Bondage Bus" was a better name. The inside joke works better.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2015, 10:26:06 pm »
Ahahahahaha.

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2015, 10:42:40 pm »
Is your brother-in-law's name per-chance, Billy Kincaid? 

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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2015, 11:07:32 pm »
You've mentioned to me about this project a couple of times before already, but it totally slipped my mind that this existed when you created the thread! Grrrrr...

Nice project! I would like to tackle a similar project in the near future, but in a more redneck sorta way 8)

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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2015, 03:42:25 am »
More pics!

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2015, 10:55:38 am »
More pics!

When I eventually get fired for gross incompetence, plan is to buy a van and live in a ski resort parking lot.
Why buy a van when surplus buses are so cheap nowadays?

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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2015, 05:12:29 pm »
Why buy a van when surplus buses are so cheap nowadays?

I've never seen a converted bus that wasn't broken down.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2015, 06:00:54 pm »
I've never seen a converted bus that wasn't broken down.

Isn't that the point of owning one? You travel around from RV park to RV park, and finally one day when it won't start, you set down your roots, and call that home.

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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2015, 07:30:27 pm »
Man, you got too much time on your hands..
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2015, 07:33:56 pm »
I'm guessing for some reason he doesn't have a class 3.
I'm pretty sure the housewives tooling around in yellow school buses all morning in my community while high on amyl nitrate don't have a class 3 either.

Just take the airbrakes off and don't put a second drive axle on it and everyone wins.

Isn't that the point of owning one? You travel around from RV park to RV park, and finally one day when it won't start, you set down your roots, and call that home.
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Re: The Rope Wagon (now with photos)
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2015, 09:39:27 am »
Added photos to post #1
Heavily edited post #2
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Today I'm attempting the gas install. First I'm going to see about that hot job tip Perfect Darky gave me.
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2015, 10:09:43 am »
Today I'm attempting the gas install. First I'm going to see about that hot job tip Perfect Darky gave me.
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PD gave you a hot tip job?
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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2015, 10:32:39 am »
PD gave you a hot tip job?

no i think it was a hot tip JAB i understand how difficult it can be using a keyboard thats upside down to what youre used to.
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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2015, 11:38:15 am »
That electrical, tho. I'd want to gut everything and run lumex.
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